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    Anonymous
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    25p if she’s 11/4, Graeme.

    #227209
    Avatar photoGoldikova
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    Cheers Eq. I think i’ll give this one a miss. I like Sariska, but there are no highlights of Enticement, and i duno if HH will run. Don’t really feel like putting anything in Racing Posts coffers. It will take a good horse to beat Sariska though.

    #227239
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    Interesting race and probably too interesting for me to make a bet for this race, all horses have form.

    If I tried to elimate horses, Sariska I’d probably not be on even with the good reports, what if Bell had the other horses then he’d rave about them too, for a Pivotal colt the dam side you would have to look at and I’d rather trust the pedigree of a horse like Leocorno than Sariska with Highland Gift proving to be a dam that produces class. But she could be good and Bell maybe right after all.

    Pachattack is probably not good enough for this also Dancing Wave is probably going to need a 7f head start to ever win this.

    The Michael Tabor filly could be absolutly anything, probably better being against her on a betting perspective.

    High Heeled has strong form now and really impressed last time out and on form has 2l over Age Of Aquarius, she will be a big danger but the tariner has flagged concerns ove the trip.

    So I’m left with the favourite, who has beaten a Guineas 3rd and a strong Oaks trial winner, although she hasn’t ran but Stoute may think she is good enough to take this, althoug the only concern would be is that Leocorno was the main filly Stoute was going to send before her injury although who is too say he would not have run them both.

    So I’d go for Stoute’s filly, although too many factors in it for me to part with trusting my money on the race.

    Should be a cracker though.

    #227359
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    Of all the horses in this race, I was only inspired by the debut performance of Star Ruby.

    I have my doubts she can stay the journey, but otherwise she imposed herself into that race like a seriously classy filly, and should naturally have improved enough to be highly competitive in a restricted Group 3.

    1pt win @ 9/2 (Ladbrokes)

    #227361
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    Enticement’s form is working out really well as some have already said, Super Slueth has run creditable in the 1000gn’s and Midday well one of my closely fancied for the Oaks before she ran her fourth behind Enticement and Lady Francesca from that Listed race has also come on and she finished way back in tenth that day at Newmarket

    #227373
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    Can we safely promote Sariska to Oaks favouritism?

    I thought Enticement was unsuited by good-to-firm. Maybe the Prix de Diane is an option?

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    I don’t know anything about the conformation of horses.

    Am I right in thinking that Sariska is a big girl? If so, will she necessarily have problems coming down the hill?

    #227430
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    I don’t know anything about the conformation of horses.

    Am I right in thinking that Sariska is a big girl? If so, will she necessarily have problems coming down the hill?

    Not so concerned because of size alone, the most important thing is how balanced she is. We saw with Midday that she travelled as well as anything I’ve seen. Sariska will need to well if she is to be involved in the finish.

    #227441
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    I’m swaying towards Midday at the moment….

    Jamie made an interesting point that Sariska hadnt been smacked before todays Musidora. When she was smacked today she didnt find loads…but…she ran a stormer today.

    After her maiden she was 33/1 for this. Wondering why I gave this to my mate as a Christmas present now! If she hacks up I’ll never live it down that I didnt back her myself :roll:

    #227465
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    Enticement’s performance has little to do with the ground, Myles – she simply wasn’t good enough. I sometimes think that too much emphasis is placed on how well a particular race works out – ten beaten horses can all run to a mark of 100 next time out, but if they were only capable of running to 75 on the day in question then subsequent events are meaningless. I much prefer to mark relative progression and, as I said, Enticement had it all to prove through her two defeats of Tottie.

    Sariska is, as you say Gerald, an incredibly well-built filly and physics would lead you to believe that Epsom’s undulations could cause her some problems. That said, she travelled supremely well off a decent enough pace today and I actually think the hill will play to her strengths. Providing she stays balanced – and I have no reason to think that she won’t – she’ll be able to free-wheel behind the pace and, hopefully, build up the momentum she needs to go through with her effort.

    Whether there’s anything to beat her, I don’t know, but she’s certainly a player.

    #227466
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    I was wrong about Sariska, she is defintely lived up to Bell’s hype before the race, it would have gave me more confiedence over Leocorno who I backed antepost as the winner is by Pivotal and both have staying dams, shame for me Leocorno looks a NR currently.

    Looks like Pivotal is useful in stayers if bred right.

    High Heeled was a massive disappointment and hopefully the ground was an excuse otherwise the form of the Lingfield Derby trial takes a knock in some aspects.

    #227485
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    High Heeled didn’t like the ground but that aside she and SMS’s filly were totally outclassed.

    One of the reasons I went for High Heeled was the fact Enticement probably wouldn’t have even run in the Musidora had Leocorno been ok. The latter being SMS’s Oaks filly since day one.

    The bookies made her fav and the punters seem to have just followed on. They must think SMS can pull Oaks winners out of his backside :lol:

    There are probably a lot better fillies around than took on the winner today but I think she really does deserve her place at the head of the market.

    She looks a much better filly than Midday to me and if Rainbow View doesn’t stay she could be a good thing for the Oaks.

    Very impressive!

    #227491
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    Aye, she was impressive Fist, but against what?
    Rainbow View’s form is far stronger, and would be much more my idea of the Oaks winner at this stage.

    #227560
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    I think Sariska is a very worth Oaks favourite and she will only improve for the extra trip.

    Rainbow View isn’t as good as she was made out to be and in any case she won’t stay twelve furlongs in a horse box. (IMO of course)

    #227655
    Neil Watson
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    Paddock side Enticement looked very well and will come on for the race without a doubt.

    Sariska is worth a go in the Oaks and seemed ok going upto 1m2f and it will be a case of seeing how she handles Epsom but it will be the same for all of them.

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