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OI! :angry: What the hell has been going on in here? I turn my back for a couple of months, and then check in to find that you’re all bantering under a subject title of ‘homosexuals – what do do?’. For God’s sake. Whats wrong with everyone? All this talk of ‘supporting’ and ‘promoting’ homosexuals. WHAT!? It’s not the Coca Cola coorporation you know. And it’s not as if there’s a big tick box next to ‘gay’ and ‘straight’ at some point in your life. If you’re gay, you’re gay! You can’t do bugger all about it. You can’t promote being gay to anyone, as i’m sure a lot of straight people will understand…you find the thought of any kind of sexual interaction or more-than-friends feelings towards someone of the same sex, undesirable, in some cases to ‘discust’ levels. A lot of people don’t accept, or realise they are gay untill way in to their lives. <br>Following the set question ‘What to do?’ What do you mean what to do? It’s lucky this member has been deleted, but i’m going to say what i’m going to say anyway. The question ‘what to do?’ offends me greatly. It sounds like you’re putting the context of homosexuals, into a catergory of extermination, segregation and humiliation. ****
off. No really. I don’t go round shouting about how ‘cool’ i am because i’m gay. And i don’t feel i have to go around feeling ashamed of myself because of the way i turned out to be. For years i’ve ripped myself to shreds in guilt, but now i’m just embracing it. I don’t rub it in to people’s faces. I still feel i have to be considerate in public, by not being over affectionate to girlfriends. I know homosexuals are frowned upon even to this day, especially by the older generation. And yes, thank god it’s a lot easier to be openly gay nowadays, but at the end of the day, at least there is the choice… If you’re gay, You should be gay. So… Homosexuals… what to do? Carry on being gay. And stop p**s
ing me off.<br>Totally agree with your post zome, except many of us older types, never had to consider it. But it was thrust upon us. I tried it when I was young and found it was not for me. talking and discussing something is far better than what happened before ie not discussed. My view do not promote nor demote, just let people do what they want.
zome,
relax! the thread was started by a poisonous and malevolent ex-member in a desperate bid to keep his forum-name in the spotlight.
by the way, and much more importantly, did you know that nina gordon (ex-Veruca) has her own website with a load of free downloads?
Yeah I knew that.
Ian.
What can the Lounge part of this forum possibly have anything to do with you work.
Off to sip beer out of a chilled wine glass now.
Oooo, NV, thanks for the tip! I will go check it out right away :biggrin:
P.S Sorry for the rant everyone. My feathers were ruffled. and Ian – i love you.
Call me an a**e licker, I don’t care, but Ian is constantly the target of pointless abuse and if I were him I’d have left the forum a long, long time ago. Ian creates some of the banter on here and probably the majority of arguments :biggrin: , but he seems a thoroughly likeable bloke and he deserves better.
VOTE IAN.<br>I’m not sure what for.<br>just do it.<br>Not like Nike.<br>What?!!<br>Shush Zome.
(to the tune of Ghostbusters)
When your threads are bare?<br>who u gonna call
Ian davies.
when your stories all forlorn<br>who U gonna call Ian Davies
when your sad and need a smiley face <br>who u gonna call Ian Davies
when you don’t want to lick no ace (bad rhyme I know)<br>who u gonna call<br>Ian davies.
Or is the marshmallow man it all sticks!!:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: <br>
As you might be aware. I am not a member of the G.A.Y. club, and still find it quite wrong.<br> But now its going to be legal for same sex marriages to go ahead, it got me thinking.<br> As much as I think its wrong, its going to happen and I have to accept it.  But my main concern it about the kids that they can addopt. I cant help but worry about kids being brought up in this enviroment.<br> <br> I.E. Its Sunday morning and little Billy the 4 year old suddenly bursts into daddy and daddys room, to find them doing their version of the wild thing.:o .<br> I think it would mentally scar me if I was an addopted child who was probably still quite insecure about being parent less with no mummy and daddy. Cos lets face it, the only children homosexuals can have, have to be addopted or donated from a bank. Not the Natwest type.
So it got me thinking in my own little Lolly way, that it should be outlawed/illegal.
But then……..
The new liberal Lolly got a bit, er, lets say compassionate. and started thinking that, if 2 poofs want to share their whole lives together, and be devoted to one another, for all eternity, then what difference does a blessing and a certificate make? To them it aparently means a lot. And I can sort of understand.
Did you know that until legal gay weddings are ,Er legal, if one of em dies, the other one has no rights what so ever about their partners funeral, possesions or anything else.  Now even Lolly thinks that wrong.
So in that respect, I would welcome gay marriage. But I still have a problem with the bringing up kids bit.
I’m sure you will point out the "first" gay men to addopt kids are doing fine, and that they are now going for their fifth addoption, but these guys are loaded and do not circulate within the same working class enviroment as most other people do. For them it seems to work, as its often published in womens OK/Hello type mags. But I worry for the kids who are placed into ordinary life situations, and have to go to school holding daddy and daddys hand.
That does bother me.
Any views?
(Edited by lollys mate at 8:01 pm on Dec. 5, 2005)<br>
(Edited by lollys mate at 8:05 pm on Dec. 5, 2005)
This is an interesting debate and a timely one.
I have to say I am in some agreement with Lolly’s Mate. (Yes, really)
Of course the adopted children of gay couples shouldn’t be made to feel embarrassed or ashamed and the other kids shouldn’t persecute them for it. But they will.
A gay couple who decide to adopt a child may be fully prepared to weather the storm and feel like they are brave pioneers. But they won’t have to go to school everyday and face the taunting.
A tricky issue and worth discussing
Despite being someone who really doesn’t like homosexuality (and I’m not saying homosexuals before I get accused of being "homophobic" ), and as someone who is firmly against gays bringing up children, I do have some sympathy with the civil partnerships movement. If people are gay then that’s who they are and it’s up to them. It’s no business of anyones to tell them what they can and can’t do in their private lives. And for couples who have been together/want to be together then I suppose they should have legal rights etc. However I’m not all that easy with the term "marriage" being used/his and his cards in shops etc due to my beliefs…but then what do you expect coming from me!
(Edited by Meshaheer at 12:41 am on Dec. 6, 2005)
I’m not sure there’s any way round the issue of gay couples bringing up children, other than for them to get on with it. In fifty years time, society will have changed enough for this to be perfectly normal and not even worthy of comment. And a good thing too.
I just feel slightly uneasy about asking children now to be the pioneers in this, since it seems to me they will bear the brunt of the persecution and won’t have had much say in the matter of whether or not they want to be pioneers.
But then, what other way forward is there.
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