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Ah well, I wasn’t intending to stay, but this forum is a bit livelier than I thought…. Ward 7 appears to be waking up after the Winter recess, perhaps Matron has run out of Bromide and we’re starting to feel that strange feelings in our loins….. be careful guys, walk carefully….
What I would like to do is to keep this a lucky dip thread that reflects my own betting….. I see myself as a survivor…. I am a winner every year from my betting, but I would be dishonest if I said that I profit every month, I dont, some months are a struggle…. some years are a struggle…. but I have NEVER lost my bank…. I have had holidays in some great and exotic locations, but I have also had a fortnight in Llandudno…. nothing wrong with Llandudno mind, North Wales is an area I really love, Snowdonia is really something…. but as far as my betting profits go, I still have to holiday in this country some years, so don’t be mislead into thinking that I know the answers, I struggle the same as everybody else….. what I have in my Portfolio is a vast array of tools that I use throughout the year….. some of these I will try and pass on to you……
Any horses that I pass on are system based, but because time is of the essence, I use selections from other "free" sites and apply my own system/filters and I also use "paid for" tips of the highest quality….. please be aware now, that I will put any of my system selections down from the "free" tips, but I will NOT be passing on anything from my "paid for" stuff…. just so that you are aware of that….. there will be other betting opportunities also, these are all system based and are in the correct area of the forum….. whether or not I divulge all or part of these systems is down to how pissed I am at the time……
MrE
OK, here’s the first leg of my Portfolio…. for those of you that have already done it, do it again, there’s new stuff all the time, you can even do it in your spouses name….. we are talking Bookie Bonuses…. yes, I know its old hat and you’ve all done it before, but it’s always being refreshed… there are new bookies all the time, and they’re all trying to get your business….. nearly every bookie that you’ve done before are offering "reloads"… anything from £5 to £50…. it’s money for nothing (Well, not quite) but it’s certainly the lowest risk bets you will ever make, if you play it right, you will make 50% of your investment EVERY time….. so if you stake £100 you’ll end up with £150, and your £100 is never at risk…. for those that haven’t done it, or for those that think they’ve covered them all, you had better go back and take another look…… OK, I’m shafted in my name and my wife’s name, but I still have my daughter, my son, my uncle and his uncle to go yet…. c’mon guys, even if its only £100, it’s low risk or no risk…. the safest bet you can make….. that’s your starter….. if your unsure, this is the place to ask….. give me time to answer though, cos I aint gonna live on here…..
MrE
Great news that you are
"hanging around"
MrE
and am sure we will all benefit from what you have to say.
Billy's Outback Shack
Hi guys…. I’m a bit pushed for time again and it appears the site was down for awhile….. I have a fancy for a bet today…..
7.30 Brighton.. Magroom…. WON….
This was only beaten half a length last time out, on firm going, the going has eased, and I think it’s raining down there a bit, so I’m quite interested in playing this….
MrE
What a way to start
The fan base will continue to incease . . well done.
Billy's Outback Shack
I’m just jotting down the way this thread is heading…. most of you have read my posts and you will know that sometimes I disappear without trace for awhile….. I can’t really help that, although I do appreciate that 5 years is a long time…
but I always have been and always will be available through Matron…. but I will try and keep the faith long enough to get you all hooked on the same stuff as me…..
There might be the odd days (weeks) when I go MIA, but I’m usually around, I just have to take a break or I’ll go crackers…. I have a huge list in my portfolio, most of which is profitable, but it becomes too much at times and I have to take a break from it….. this week is a prime example…. I have just told some good personal friends of mine that I’m stopping doing the horses, I really can’t be bothered with all the studying, it gets too much (especially when the sun is shining), I’m retired now and I find myself working as hard now as I did before retirement….. I’ll pass on what I can, but I can’t promise it daily….. there are other means to make money too, I think they are even better than the horses, so I might just follow the old saying that "if you teach a man to fish, he can feed himself"…. and I’m not saying that I’ve got the answers either, but I’m still batting…..
MrE
Oh dear, I’ve been trying all morning to log on and just couldn’t get on, tried 3 different browsers too… ah well, this selection is a bit late for anyone that doesn’t look in after dinner and I’m not sure whether to bother putting it up, but now I’m on here, I may as well….
5.05 Muss… Carcinetto….. LOST….
I’m not that confident about this one because its been a bit hit and miss, and I think that it’s probably left well alone….. but I can’t help noticing that it’s last outing when he was second, was a huge two classes higher than this….. so a two grade drop in class is what is poking me in the wallet….. still a bit unsure about it because of past form being a bit mediocre, but a big drop in class has to be noted, so I’m going for PLACE ONLY on B/F….. 9.40 was available for the win, so I’ll take anything at 3.00 or better for the place (I got 3.10)…..
MrE
MrE, MrE
, what can I say, your fans will be distraught to discover you are after all a mere human, like the rest of us !!!
I have a question for you:
you managed 3.0+ for a place bet and so I must say that part of the plan was a success because when I looked the word must have been out because the price had plumeted and was IMO not worthwhile, (clever sod that I am
).
However I looked at the 3 place cover prices and found it was at 6/1 (
now I am not such a clever sod after all
).
What may I ask in your opinion is the better of the two betting chances?
Billy's Outback Shack
Ah yes Billion, and I kick the cat when it goes all wrong….. I’ll have a lot of losers and throw the toys out of the pram, but by betting at the right prices I hope to keep my head above water, I try to stay away from shorties….. I have what looks to be one at reasonable odds today…..5.15 Thirsk.. Incomparable….. LOST….
and for anyone thats tempted at a dabble in the 2000 guineas, I keep edging towards one thats clinging to my shoes like dog poo, and is worth me playing to smaller stakes because of the prices…. 30.00 for the WIN and a nice little 7.00 for a place, I’m playing at half stakes on this one….. Dick Turpin….. PLACED @ 7.00….
MrE
The Cover bets are a good bet, I think that they are probably good bets for the normal E/W player….. if you take the normal bet of 1pt E/W and put the whole 2pts on at 6/1 (normal price probably 8/1), then you have a profit of 12pts if it wins…. this is better than the 1pt E/W bet at 8/1….. because you get your stakes returned on a place bet, if the selection gets placed, you would only be about 1pt down (although not losing) when compared to the normal E/W…… so I think its probably better to risk that 1pt to get a 12pt return on the Win instead of only 8pts….. better value….. so yes, under normal circumstances I think the "Cover" bet is an excellent bet……
But it is NOT a bet that I use, because I make MOST of my profits from the place part of my own bets…. the majority of my bets are all about the places, the wins are just a bonus to build up the bank (I use it as a safety net for my losing bets), I wouldn’t care if ALL my selections lost, just as long as I can get the majority to place….. that being the case, I have to place more money on the place than I do on the win, so the "cover" bet cannot work for me….. nonetheless, I still think its probably better than a straight forward E/W……
MrE
Perceptive as always
MrE
, thanks for the reply.
I do hope you get your PLACE with Inomparible as I want Grudge.
Billy's Outback Shack
I could say I was robbed by Dick Turpin but that would not be true.
Well done
MrE
, they say its lucky to step in dog poo but I think you were but just one place cleverer than me with Canford Cliffs.
Billy's Outback Shack
They, will be meat on the table for dinner tonight at the E’s household.
Well done.
Regards – Matron
Many thanks gentlemen, I’m pleased to say that we are well ahead of our target of a 20% ROI….. this is the most important figure for us and is the reason that we stake as we do….. I’m still having problems getting on the forum but with a couple of efforts I manage to break through….
I will update the P/L later tonight….
MrE
Hi again, I hope you guys are taking all this as it’s intended….. I’m not wanting to turn it into a tipping line, it’s just to show how I manage by bank….. most pro’s and tipsters go by how many points they make per month and that is very misleading because 10pts a month profit can be made staking only 10pts in total, whereby you can make a 10pt profit but using 200pts a month of your bank….. the first result is superb, whilst the second result is pants….. the most important figure in survival at betting is the ROI (Return on Investment) or POT (Profit on Turnover), that is the area that I think that you need to concentrate on….. this is what I’m trying to show you with my results….. as mentioned previously, I have a large Portfolio, but for this attempt I will restrict myself to the horse racing selections… once you see these in action, you will know that the other methods that I integrate all follow the same idea… and that is to achieve a target of 20% ROI…. so far this thread has produced the following…..
Magroom…. 1pt WIN and 3pts PLACE…. + 5.32pts….
Carcinetto…. 1pt PLACE only…. – 1.00pts….
Dick Turpin… 0.5pts WIN and 1.5pts PLACE + 8.08pts….
Incomparable.. 1pt WIN and 3pts PLACE…. – 4.00pts….Total OUTLAY = 11pts…. PROFIT = + 9.40pts….
This is all AFTER 5% commission has been deducted….
OK, so analyse that for just a minute…. if you can make 20% profit on your stakes every month, you will become a very rich man and the pro’s will rip your head off for 20%…. I know 3 of ’em and they work to 15%, so 20% put me well in front….. the above result means that we are running at 85% at the moment and we have only had 1 winner….. so I suppose that what I’m trying to say, without appearing to have an ego trip, is that it IS important that you get your value right AND your staking…… the selection method is the last thing to worry about, you can get winners from all over the place, your own systems, someone else’s systems or selections, it doesn’t matter…. just pick your poison and STAKE CORRECTLY…. the selection method is secondary, any nob can find winners, it’s finding them at a "value" price and the betting them correctly is the answer….. lets just see if I can post regular enough to keep this thread alive and then I’ll hopefully show you what I mean…. I don’t have to waste my time boasting guys, I’ve better things to do… I don’t expect you to follow my tips because I could be gone tomorrow, but you ought to at least consider the betting and staking advice, that’s gotta be worth a read any day of the week……
MrE
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