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sadly one more horse has been killed at the national fences i love to watch horse racing but i find it so heartbreaking to see a magnificent animal lying on the ground that cant get up i dont know if the national is fair asking the horses to jump these fences or maybe it is just me that thinks it is so sad:( :(
yes it was very sad to hear that Lord Rodney had died.However these horses are not made to jump they do so of their own free will.Just look at the beginning of this race for instance when Always refused to race.If you dont like seeing it then dont watcfh.
i didint say i did not like seeing horses race i said it was sad when thay get killed over the national fences and i dont think they have any choice but to jump them
Lets not turn the memorail section into am advert for animal aid.None of us like seeing horses die racing,its tragic .Aintree have modifed the course and the RSPCA attend the National meetings so the welfare of the horses is taken into huge consideration.
Its doubly sad when he didn’t actually fall but was brought down, one of Peter Beaumonts better horses these days. I think Aintree have done a marvellous job regarding horse welfare, Le Passing was given a police escort to Liverpool Veterinary Hospital (not life threatening) and Paul Nicholls was full of praise for them. Plenty of horses jumped for fun round Aintree & did have an option. Like Monkerhostin if they don’t fancy it they don’t do it. RIP Lord Rodney.
You mention that it is sad to see a horse die on the race track, but what about the 3,000 or so race horses that are gruesomely slaughtered in England because they didn’t make "the cut"? I think that we should be thinking about these poor horses who have a much more terrifying death than those who are killed on the track!
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wow… <br>when i put up a post mentioning various dead horses, i got an earful and a slagging off for being animal rights .. when all i was doing was posting some horses i hadnt seen mentioned on here. <br>I think it is sad when a horse dies, be it on the track or the ones who loose their lives in other ways. <br>I do believe that these horses can make up their own mind however. If they dont want to do in the stalls, they dont.. if they dont want to leave the start.. they dont.. and if they dont want to jump a fence they dont, if they want the jockey off their back.. they buck him off! <br>I believe that the horses enjoy to race, i think they prefer jumps to flat racing tho (thats just a personal opinion howver) when they are racing they look mainly happy.. some look a bit miserable like detroit city does recently.. but im sure an animal can feel crap just like we do somedays. <br>The national fences always worry me a little.. as they do all of us i think.. they are bigger and all that but, i do think the horses have fun. hedgehunter keeps plodding around.. as does clan royal.. i know they dont enter themselves into the race. but do we enrol ourselves at school?? <br>i think the horses who manage these national courses are very brave animals who deserve respect. the sport it strongly monitored and animal rights people dont see that side, all they see is one horse out of many fall and get hurt, publicise it and thus make people frown upon racing. <br>I would never want to see an animal get hurt. whether it is a pet, a racer, or wild… <br>I hope lord rodney is at peace and is in a happy place, whatever it may be. <br>please dont criticise the horse racing field, as i think you will find that there is a lot of love for these animals from most true fans. :o
Quote: from zara21147 <br>I hope lord rodney is at peace and is in a happy place, whatever it may be. <br>please dont criticise the horse racing field, as i think you will find that there is a lot of love for these animals from most true fans. :o
He will have been turned into pet food probably;-)<br> People who genuinely love horses wouldn’t race them.
I don’t know why people bother posting on here when they clearly have no understanding of the meaning of this forum or racing as a whole. I would have no hesitation in deleting such postings if they were to post on my website, as they are not in the spirit of the site.
Anyway, I would like to know where pug got those statistics from.
And of course people who love horses race them, I’ve met and spoken to many owners and more humane people you would struggle to meet.
Because we can and are entitiled to our opinion.If you would prefer everybody to give each other a pat on the back and say how wonderfully super everything is in the racing world from foals to "retired" and reel out the sycophantic platitudes of "rip" and "gone to horsey heaven"etc before promptly moving on to the next animal then thats your perogative.
I love all horses whether they race or not. I also belong to a Racing Club, & visit racing stables on a regular basis, not just to large well known trainers, but permit holders as well. I have never seen a racehorse that doesn’t live in the lap of luxury, get the best of food, and veterinary care etc. The stable staff are heartbroken when a fatality occurs, be it a selling plater or a class act.<br>On the other side of the fence I also sponsor horses & ponies at Redwings Horse Sanctuary, where I also visit. The amount of cruelty that some of these poor creatures have had to endure has to be seen to be believed. In some cases they cannot be saved. The RSPCA do prosecute when they can trace the owners, in my opinion some of them should be locked up for a very long time. There is no comparison to the way racehorses are treated, I will reiterate they have a great life, whereas those that end up at Redwings & other similar places are looked after till the end of their days in a kind & humane way, finding sanctuary at last after, in a lot of cases years of cruelty.
While I wouldn’t want such a debate to dominate the forum I do think horse welfare is something we shouldn’t be afraid of tackling. After all, if we (meaning us supporters of racing) cannot defend our sport against charges of cruelty, etc, then we are in trouble.
Quote: from quixallcrossett on 10:32 pm on April 17, 2007[br]I love all horses whether they race or not. I also belong to a Racing Club, & visit racing stables on a regular basis, not just to large well known trainers, but permit holders as well. I have never seen a racehorse that doesn’t live in the lap of luxury, get the best of food, and veterinary care etc. The stable staff are heartbroken when a fatality occurs, be it a selling plater or a class act.<br>On the other side of the fence I also sponsor horses & ponies at Redwings Horse Sanctuary, where I also visit. The amount of cruelty that some of these poor creatures have had to endure has to be seen to be believed. In some cases they cannot be saved. The RSPCA do prosecute when they can trace the owners, in my opinion some of them should be locked up for a very long time. There is no comparison to the way racehorses are treated, I will reiterate they have a great life, whereas those that end up at Redwings & other similar places are looked after till the end of their days in a kind & humane way, finding sanctuary at last after, in a lot of cases years of cruelty.<br>
not all racehorses are treeted with care and respect one that comes to mind was hello dandy thank god we have places like moorcroft who rescued him
hallo Dandy was with The Thoroughbted rehabilitation center.If we chose to write "sychophantic platitudes on the memorial site then that;s because we care and we are paying our respects to the horses we all admire.<br>I respect most peoples opinions on here even if they dont agree with ne but I fing Pugs andf Pogles comments innappropriate to the memorial part of this forum.Like you Quixall I repay the horses that give me pleasure by doating to the TRC and belonging to ILPH and Bransby’s.I also have an"expression of wish" clause to my company pension that if I die in their emplyment that money goes to 4 animal charities 3 of which are above.<br>
Quote: from ninahagen4 on 5:52 pm on April 18, 2007[br]hallo Dandy was with The Thoroughbted rehabilitation center.If we chose to write "sychophantic platitudes on the memorial site then that;s because we care and we are paying our respects to the horses we all admire.<br>I respect most peoples opinions on here even if they dont agree with ne but I fing Pugs andf Pogles comments innappropriate to the memorial part of this forum.Like you Quixall I repay the horses that give me pleasure by doating to the TRC and belonging to ILPH and Bransby’s.I also have an"expression of wish" clause to my company pension that if I die in their emplyment that money goes to 4 animal charities 3 of which are above.<br>
<br>I am sorry if i have offended you in any way but i have had horses all my life and they stay with me until they die because i have taken responsibility for their welfare.How are racehorses viewed? When they can’t race anymore some will go to stud, but what happens if they are infertile some will be sold on but there is only so much demand for ex racers and the really successful ones like dessie and rummy will be paraded around but the rest?We all know where they end up as it would be impossible to find all of them nice comfy homes so are racehorses to be viewed as a commodity like sheep and cattle?I can live with that better than some of the hypocritical rip stuff.
I completely agree with pogle!
We don’t want to offend anybody but it has to be said – where do they think the 5,000 horses that are retired each year end up!?! The over production of these race horses has devastating consequences for the animals who are not good enough!
(Edited by pug at 10:36 am on April 19, 2007)
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