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Probably an iffy standard time, based on not many races on new course lay out. Time is 8.3 over standard which compares badly with 2m h’cap..
In a steadily run race, HE was making no inroads on the leader in the last 2f.
Evidence that he stays? I very much doubt it.Sorry, should read iffy course record.
I’ve said it a million times Black Jack Ketchum is a two miler. I cannot believe his connections have persisted in trying to make him a stayer. Its madness now FFS aim him at the Champion Hurdle.
Hardy Eustace ran a good race but Loch Derg was given too big a lead that much is obvious. Great ride by Tom Scudamore.
Too big a lead maybe but those forcing tactics suited the horse I don’t think there was any fluke about this I wouldn’t write him off for the World Hurdle by any means.
If Lough Derg is in the same form as today and is allowed such a lead again, He will win the World Hurdle in the same manner and he would be a deserving winner, just like today
I don’t think Black Jack Ketchum will be good enough to trouble some of the big boys over any trip to be honest.
Following his novice campaign which was more style over substance, he has had an excuse trotted out after every start.
Dare I say it, but may he just have been over-rated?As for Chief Dan George, his connections should be eternally grateful that he managed to fluke his win at Aintree. Massively flattered there, they will do well to find him another race over hurdles ever.
I don’t think Black Jack K. will be better over 2m because, unlike most decent 2milers, he doesn’t have a strong finishing kick.
I think he’s better at 3m because at that trip (in a weakish race), he can run smoothly at the same speed behind the leaders, wait for them to tire and slow down, and cruise by them without needing to change gear. A 2m race would be too aggressive IMO: could you imagine him trying to get past Hardy over that trip? He’s like a slower, less fluent Harchibald.
I don’t think Black Jack Ketchum will be good enough to trouble some of the big boys over any trip to be honest.
Totally agree
Dare I say it, but may he just have been over-rated?
I wouldn’t say he’s been overrated, today, his last run, his Relkeel probably show how good he is and that is about a Grade 3 horse of around 160ish
For a horse that hasn’t been over-rated, he seems to start a very short price every time he sets foot on a racecourse, Charlie.
Maybe something to do with the jockey too.
I often find that some of McCoys’ rides are shorter than they should be, simply because he is in the saddle.
As for Chief Dan George, his connections should be eternally grateful that he managed to fluke his win at Aintree. Massively flattered there, they will do well to find him another race over hurdles ever.
Completely agree.
Dont think the horse is as good as has been made out to be honest.
I think also, looking back at that race at Aintree that he won, would he have won that if Massini’s Maguire and Wichita Lineman hadn’t burnt themselves out from a long way out. Both horses did take eachother on from a longway into the backstraight, and by the time they got to the last 2 or 3 fences, they were very tired horses. This may have given Cheif Dan George a better chance of winning than usual.
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Horses don’t normally find 16/18lbs on their 20th run over hurdles, which is what’s suggested if you take today’s form literally.
If Lough Derg even places in the World Hurdle, I’ll run round Cheltenham nakedFor a horse that hasn’t been over-rated, he seems to start a very short price every time he sets foot on a racecourse, Charlie.
Aren’t horses that travel like he does nearly always over – rated in betting markets though Smithy?
I only fancied him over HE today because i thought HE was worth taking on over this trip.
Had i known trip was sound enough for HE, i’d have been on HE because he’s the superior animal and imo he would have won today had he not been given all that ground to peg back, but thats not to take anything away from winner, who, like last year against Mighty Man showed he has ability
Horses don’t normally find 16/18lbs on their 20th run over hurdles, which is what’s suggested if you take today’s form literally.
If Lough Derg even places in the World Hurdle, I’ll run round Cheltenham nakedreet,
you need to take into account the lead he was given by the other runners and the advantage that gave Lough Derg
This race today imo is no different to say when Sublimity put in a 170 winning performance in CH (improving 22lb), but he benifited by the way the race was run or Cesare putting in a G1 performance in Summer Mile because of the way that race was run
It is very hard, nay, almost impossible to give that many lengths start to any horse regardless of ability and expect another horse to catch it
The leader has to tire or you are well and truly up the stream without a paddle imo
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I can’t believe the Black Jack Ketchum we’re seeing now is the same horse that cantered over anything that dared oppose him a couple of years ago, and I refuse to entertain the thought that Hardy Eustace stays 3m, but the race was nothing short of a farce for me.
Still, all credit has to go to Tom Scudamore. He pinched at the start, got a breather in to Lough Derg half-way and never looked like being reeled in.
lough derg would never have won if he had run the race any other way, the tactics paid off , he would never win if involved in a sprint finish,he is a very good horse however and i think was underated by the opposition. unlike BJK who i think has always been overated by pundits etc.great ride by scudamore .
I can’t believe the Black Jack Ketchum we’re seeing now is the same horse that cantered over anything that dared oppose him a couple of years ago, and I refuse to entertain the thought that Hardy Eustace stays 3m, but the race was nothing short of a farce for me.
Me neither, it’s like Jekyll and Hyde.
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