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Well Gordon anything for a laugh.
Nice horse this Long Run but no more a superstar than flying in the air.
He won the King George because THE KING had a day off but like dozens before him won a gold cup but then again so did What A Myth when he was 12.
Long time before this horse deserves a thread of his own
Long Run
has never been out of the first 3 in 21 runs,winning 15 times,5 of which have been Grade 1’s.He has amassed over a million pounds in Prizemoney and is only 7yo.
He is the Champion staying Chaser having won last years Gold Cup and is the horse to beat in this years!Sprinter Sacre
on the other hand has achieved sweet fanny adams in comparison and his 65k Prizemoney is a pittance compared to ‘Long Runs’.I have said it before but considering everything I have seen of this ‘Sprinter Sacre’ I still maintain at 6/4 he is the Lay of the meeting,his off fore has such an extension to it that he’ll step on a fence around Cheltenham and pay the price,he took off way too early at Newbury on occassions as he was calling the shots,Barry was just a passenger and at times i’d guess a nervous one as this beast of a horse attacked every fence with such ferocity it was as though the fence wasn’t there.Visually enthralling to watch but he’s playing with Fire if Barry doesn’t show him who’s boss!
Well Gord I think he lacks class and then some.
Unfortunately you aren’t remembered for winning the odd Gold Cup or King George’s.
Everyone knows who Arkle, Red Rum, Desert Orchid and Kauto Star is and they will still be talked about in 50 years time.
Long Run filled in for Kauto Star last year but so far this year he’d won ziltch until the other day and was nearly turned over by Burton Port.
If he fails to win the Gold Cup again he’ll be a forgotten horse in a few years.
It’ only my opinion but Big Buck’s, Kauto Star, Sprinter Sacre and Hurricane Fly have all got something Long Run lacks;True star quality.
Reasons why Long Run no public following are:
A) Nobody likes a horse who beat the Kings (Kauto Star and Denman).
B) Punters don’t like backing amateur jockeys.
C) A lot of punters don’t like posh speaking owners and jockeys. The Class system is unfortunately alive and kicking in the prejudices of the "working class".
Value Is EverythingOr it could be that Long Run’s race record over here is just 5 wins from 9 runs and that 2 years ago nobody had heard of him, whereas Kauto was already a long established legend then and two years down the road is still kicking Long Run’s butt even though Kauto is almost drawing his pension.
Long Run, like Sprinter Sacre, Grands Cru, etc, have a long way to go to be in the same league as Kauto, they could just as easily fade away and never win another festival race between them.
At least if Kauto has a cough now, it will give the rest of the GC field a look in.
As one who has trumpeted Long Run as the best 3 mile chaser around, I have to say that he has disappointed me somewhat.
I still maintain that Sam Waley-Cohen does not help his cause.Had the roles been reversed the other day whereby Barry Geraghty been on Long Rung and SWC on Burton Port, then favourite backers would not have had a moment’s concern.
I am very much with Tom Segal when he says that horse’s chances can be vastly improved when ridden by a top class jockey.
As for Sprinter Sacre: to me he is most definitely the real deal. I haven’t been more excited by a chaser since a young Kauto Star came on the scene. Bog Trotter is another – I just love this way he goes about his business. On soft going he looks unbeatable.
I will follow both horses religiously until they meet with defeat.
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Or it could be that Long Run’s race record over here is just 5 wins from 9 runs and that 2 years ago nobody had heard of him, whereas Kauto was already a long established legend then and two years down the road is still kicking Long Run’s butt even though Kauto is almost drawing his pension.
Long Run, like Sprinter Sacre, Grands Cru, etc, have a long way to go to be in the same league as Kauto, they could just as easily fade away and never win another festival race between them.
At least if Kauto has a cough now, it will give the rest of the GC field a look in.
Whilst KS is undoubtably one of the best steeplechasers we are likely to see his record going right handed is hardly percentage wise brilliant. 9 wins from 18 runs,50%, of course two of those eight was the important one in March.KS is also only 2 from 6 at Cheltenham so I would suggest cough or no cough that the rest of the GC field has more of a look in around Cheltenham than they would elsewhere. His record going the other way round is very hard to pick any holes in
As one who has trumpeted Long Run as the best 3 mile chaser around, I have to say that he has disappointed me somewhat.
I still maintain that Sam Waley-Cohen does not help his cause.Had the roles been reversed the other day whereby Barry Geraghty been on Long Rung and SWC on Burton Port, then favourite backers would not have had a moment’s concern.
I am very much with Tom Segal when he says that horse’s chances can be vastly improved when ridden by a top class jockey.
Of course Long Run’s chances would be improved if Barry took the ride H. Sam is an amateur after all. Professional riders are generally more consistent (make fewer mistakes) than amateurs. And the best pro riders may be able to improve their form too, but when the amateur is a good one like Sam, not imo "vastly improved". It is an arguement for top jockeys to replace "lesser" ones in every good race. I wouldn’t like to see that. Sam has also already played a big part in Long Run winning a King George and Gold Cup.
In my opinion Long Run’s less impressive performance than should’ve been could be put down to idling (pricked ears), due to no ear plugs. Wore them at Kempton (twice) and Cheltenham (Gold Cup) as well as in the Betfair Chase where he probably needed the race. Although there is an obvious question of whether Long Run is as good as last season, I believe there’s a good chance of a return to form, especially if "re-plugged".
Value Is EverythingIn my opinion Long Run’s less impressive performance than should’ve been could be put down to idling (pricked ears), due to no ear plugs. Wore them at Kempton (twice) and Cheltenham (Gold Cup) as well as in the Betfair Chase where he probably needed the race. Although there is an obvious question of whether Long Run is as good as last season, I believe there’s a good chance of a return to form, especially if "re-plugged".
It could very well be a mitigating factor, Ginge – and something that Nicky Henderson may well be considering. Plugs in ( and SWC off ! ) would do the horse the world of good. Neigh ?
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Having seen both in the flesh recently I have to say that visually
Burton Port
has a long way to go to look like his stable companion
Long Run
as is clearly shown in the pictures below!
[attachment=1:su8e4k67]242a355.jpg[/attachment:su8e4k67]Giving 10lb away to the runner-up was no mean feat either!
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Call me the biggest turncoat going but If I see 3/1
Long Run
I’ll lump on as my initial Gold Cup horse ‘Quito de la Roque’ has been scratched and ‘Synchronised’ is still not guaranteed to turn up.I have been fair blown over with last years Gold Cup Winner now I’ve seen him!
Both pics above are of as similar scale and pose as i could find (as little asian gal in blue shows) and clearly
Long Run
looks the stronger more powerful beast! ‘Burton’ could easily bounce in the big one too!!
You can clearly see the Asian gal is standing upright in the BP pic and has her legs bent in the Long Run one. This tells me categorically Long Run won’t win the GC.
"this perfect mix of poetry and destruction, this glory of rhythm, power and majesty: the undisputed champion of the world!!!"
Yes, but the second horse’s nostrils are above the bald man’s head whereas the first horse has them in his armpit, so that would make 5/2 a steal…
I like Tom Symonds view,the lad who rode
Long run
in his work last year in that he like myself believes the Champ never came out of second gear at Newbury last week,his return to the Winners enclosure was like watching one going out to race rather than one who just had! He’s the horse to beat and I’m struggling to see anything that can! 9/4 sure looks big,he goes off 13/8fav!
I barely looked at the race Gord as these races are very seldom a real indication of what will happen on the bid day. Nicky Henderson wouldn’t have him at his peak anyway and he still did the job well.
I’d imagine you’d be safe giving anyone 10 a lengths start on the field if they fancied Burton Port for Gold CupKingy , I am loathe to disagree with you as you generally get these things right , but in this case I do …reason is I cannot have his jockey under any circumstances , he unbalances the horse at each opportunity (imo )…a shame , if a pro was riding you could fill your boots…methinks Ruby will have way too much know how to get him beat
Remember these words KINGY , the man is a dentist , and a darn good one apparently , no offence to anyone , the horse needs a proper jockey (imo ).
cheers
Ricky
Remember these words KINGY , the man is a dentist , and a darn good one apparently , no offence to anyone , the horse needs a proper jockey (imo ).
cheers
Ricky
Ricky,you are quite right about his Jockey,I was a ‘doubter’ in the RSA and he proved me right,however I was also a ‘doubter’ in last years Gold Cup and he proved me wrong so I am happy to give the lad the benefit of the doubt,I’m a great believer in the saying ‘Been there,seen it, done it’ and Sam has.I honestly think we are all running for second place this year as having seen this beast in the flesh has converted me! Hallelujah I’m converted!
Interesting to read that Tom Segal puts a helluva lot of emphasis on the jockey when he assesses a race prior to a bet!Something I dont do to that degree for sure! i still thinkGet me out of here
is a certainty,even with young Maurice Lineman on board!
‘Ruby beat Sam at Kempton,more than Kauto beat Long Run’ remember those words! Well it seems the
Long Run
who turned up for last weeks Gold Cup is the real ‘Long run’,there’s been no word of any injury or ailment that caused him to run flat so was that him at his best? I dont believe that was his best but I only believe he ran 5lb below it, and not to a mark of 182.He’s never ran to that mark all season! I expected ‘Synchronised’ to run exactly the way he did and attack running after the last,I honestly thought that ‘Long run’ would have gone with him and a battle ensue,I certainly didn’t envisage ‘The Giant Bolster’ out battling him.
Interesting that both are still only 7yo,both ran only 20 odd times but whereas ‘TGB’ has only won 4 times and placed 5 times,’Long Run’ has never been out of the 3 and having won 13 times i still believe the 10/1 about this fellow is a better bet than the 33/1 about ‘TGB’ for next years Gold Cup.Burton Port
ran by far the best Grand National trial of the year! Anybody think ‘Prince de Beauchene’ would have beaten him in the Gold cup? Thought Not!
Interesting that the stable lad who had his £50 acca on
Sprinter Sacre
,
Finians Rainbow
,
Bobs Worth
,
Simonsig
and
Riverside Theatre
left out
Long Run
,
Burton Port
ran by far the best Grand National trial of the year! Anybody think ‘Prince de Beauchene’ would have beaten him in the Gold cup? Thought Not!
Hate to break it to you Gord, but the Grand National is a handicap.
Prince De Beauchene is getting over a stone from Burton Port at Aintree. The Mullins horse would not need to have beaten Burton Port in the Gold Cup to run abetter trial
.
And it’s hardly "by far the best Grand National trial of the year", when Synchronised beat Burton Port 8 lengths in the Gold Cup, and only has to give him 3 lbs in the Grand National. Although I don’t expect the Gold Cup winner to finish, you could argue Jonjo’s is the stouter stayer too.
Burton Port ran a good trial, yes. "By far the best", no.
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