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  • #397933
    theplasticpaddy
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    Long Run has got worse as SWC has got less confident and less able to hold the horse. What a man Sam Waley Cohen would be if he was to say he has had his fun and it is time to let BG ride the horse. If BG did ride him I would back him without thinking!!!! However he won’t get within 10 lengths of Sir Des Champs in next years Gold Cup.

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    Avatar photoKINGFISHER
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    Burton Port

    ran by far the best Grand National trial of the year! Anybody think ‘Prince de Beauchene’ would have beaten him in the Gold cup? Thought Not!

    Hate to break it to you Gord, but the Grand National is a handicap. :wink: Prince De Beauchene is getting over a stone from Burton Port at Aintree. The Mullins horse would not need to have beaten Burton Port in the Gold Cup to run a

    better trial

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    And it’s hardly "by far the best Grand National trial of the year", when Synchronised beat Burton Port 8 lengths in the Gold Cup, and only has to give him 3 lbs in the Grand National. Although I don’t expect the Gold Cup winner to finish, you could argue Jonjo’s is the stouter stayer too.

    Burton Port ran a good trial, yes. "By far the best", no.

    There’s no disputing

    Synchronised

    is the stouter stayer,there isn’t a horse in training stays and battles like him.What surprises me is that JonJo categorically stated his Gold cup winner needs longer between his races as he gets older after his Lexus win so I would be surprised if he turned up,obviously if he does he goes off a short priced fav and wins if he gets round No question! Next year I can see

    Long Run

    being trained for the race if his level of form doesn’t improve from what it is now,I’d take 25/1!

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    Avatar photoricky lake
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    King , very wise words , the winning acca did not have Long Run on it , does that tell a story in itself !!!

    As for the dentist , in fairness he rode a blinder , gave the nag every chance , in position A for 95 per cent of the race

    Sad truth is , he was not good enough

    lets move on ….next year the Gigginstown team will have a big say ….that we can both bet on :mrgreen:

    Ricky

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    Avatar photoSteeplechasing
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    Can any in the ‘sack SWC’ camp tell me what BG or Ruby would do differently on the horse? Of course they are better jockeys in general but the horse is by no means a difficult ride.

    Long Run’s main problem is that he simply does not jump well enough; he is long-backed and tends to leave his hind legs in fences at times, especially under pressure. I doubt any jock could change that characteristic.

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    Avatar photoKINGFISHER
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    Can any in the ‘sack SWC’ camp tell me what BG or Ruby would do differently on the horse? Of course they are better jockeys in general but the horse is by no means a difficult ride.

    Long Run’s main problem is that he simply does not jump well enough; he is long-backed and tends to leave his hind legs in fences at times, especially under pressure. I doubt any jock could change that characteristic.

    One might argue that a Professional Jockey could get all of 1 length more out of

    Long Run

    ,nothing more imo.
    However around Aintree I would defineately want B,Geraghty ahead of Sam but we all know Sam will keep the ride,incidentally I was offered 16/1 for next years Grand National! I’d get that on the machine in 6 months time! :roll:

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    theplasticpaddy
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    Can any in the ‘sack SWC’ camp tell me what BG or Ruby would do differently on the horse? Of course they are better jockeys in general but the horse is by no means a difficult ride.

    Long Run’s main problem is that he simply does not jump well enough; he is long-backed and tends to leave his hind legs in fences at times, especially under pressure. I doubt any jock could change that characteristic.

    Not be about half an hour behind the movement so they perform dentistry on the poor horse at most fences; be able to hold the horse so he doesn’t tank off and get in under his fences. Long Run is a fiendishly difficult ride. SWC has done brilliantly to win what he has won but the horse has got wise to him and also has lost confidence in him IMO. Even people who thought he was up to it last year can see that SWC cannot ride half the horse this year. The jockeys will be complimentary about the fella, sure he seems a nice enough chap, and if he keeps riding Long Run, the horse will keep losing. They can do what they want with their horse but it is a shame that we are not going to see the best of Long Run, Gwan the WCs let Barry ride the horse, I dare ye!!!!!

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    Can any in the ‘sack SWC’ camp tell me what BG or Ruby would do differently on the horse? Of course they are better jockeys in general but the horse is by no means a difficult ride.

    Long Run’s main problem is that he simply does not jump well enough; he is long-backed and tends to leave his hind legs in fences at times, especially under pressure. I doubt any jock could change that characteristic.

    One might argue that a Professional Jockey could get all of 1 length more out of

    Long Run

    ,nothing more imo.
    However around Aintree I would defineately want B,Geraghty ahead of Sam but we all know Sam will keep the ride,incidentally I was offered 16/1 for next years Grand National! I’d get that on the machine in 6 months time! :roll:

    Sam won both the Foxhunters and Topham in the same year in ’06 when they all said "he couldn’t ride in the National". Sam is awesome round Aintree. Hell of his three rides in the marathon he’s come 5th, fell at the second and come runner up. That on top of his Foxhunter/Topham record speaks for itself.

    I’ve always liked Sam and i have never understood why people have a problem with him… most likely jealousy. Lets face it, wouldn’t we all be race riders on the side of our full time job if given the chance?

    The people moaning about Sam are the same ones who 2 years ago were saying "AP’s past his best! He’s over the hill! Walsh and Geraghty are better!" Of course one Champion Hurdle, a Grand National, a Sports Personality of the Year Award and a Cheltenham Gold Cup winner later, those cynics were all put in their place. And Sam will do the same.

    #398157
    theplasticpaddy
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    How I agree with you Peter H, SWC is a cracking jockey over the big fences. He actually rides over the big fences more than the pros do. However, he is causing Long run to get beat over park fences. I am certainly not jealous of SWC being able to ride beside his living because at 6’2" and 16 1/2 stone I might have to spend slightly too much time in the sauna. And as for saying AP was past it, to mention SWC and AP in the same sentence could be politely described as silly. They can do what they want with their horse but we are not seeing the best of Long Run which is a shame. P.S. there were very sensible safety reasons for SWC not being allowed to ride in the national until he had ridden the requisite number of winners, in spite of the lobbying done on his behalf by Marcus Armytage et al. The rules were there for a reason and I am sure Mr WC could have found him a couple of horses to ride to get his number of winners up.

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