March 2, 2002 at 17:42 #39502
Huntingdon 5.05 Game On LAY Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£20 @ 8/13 LOST <br>BANK = Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£1235
Doncaster 5.15 Kymani Prince LAY Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£20 @ EVENS LOST<br>BANK = Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£1255
Lingfield 5.20 Three Clouds LAY Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£20 @ 9/2 LOST<br>BANK = Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£1275
Newbury 5.35 The Penny’s Dropped LAY Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£20 @ 11/8 LOST<br>BANK = Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£1295
20 Plays, BANK UP Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£295 (14.75 Points if Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£20 = 1 Point). 18 Wins, 2 Losses
:biggrin: :cool: :biggrin:March 4, 2002 at 12:38 #39503DaylightMember
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Leaving it as Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£’s is fine mate, we will convert – keep up the good work!March 4, 2002 at 17:30 #39504
Wolverhampton 5.00 Flambe LAY Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£20 @ 21/10 LOST<br>BANK = Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£1315
Market Rsn 5.10 Cowboyboots LAY Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£20 @ 21/10 LOST<br>BANK = Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£1335
Fontwell 5.20 Dragon Hunter LAY Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£20 @ 6/4 WON<br>BANK = Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£1305
23 Plays, BANK UP Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£305. 20 Wins, 3 Losses.
Im predicting a higher percentage of these to start winning soon, it’s doing much better than expected!March 4, 2002 at 19:09 #39505MatronParticipant
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I have been checking some "stats".
30% of the favourites win in the last race on the card on the Flat and 35% with regards to the NH.
Unless things change drastically you should do well with this.
Regards – Matron<br>:cool:March 4, 2002 at 21:23 #39506Slippy BlueMember
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Well done matey, keep it going.<br>Porsche for you at the end of the year at this rate .
And not before time too.<br>That Ford Capri really does need replacing…………;)March 5, 2002 at 17:07 #39507
Leicester 4.40 Red Rebel LAY Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£20 @ 21/10 LOST<br>BANK = Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£1325
Exeter 4.50 Capriccio LAY Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£20 @ 7/2 LOST<br>BANK = Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£1345
Sedgefield 5.00 MR Woodentop LAY Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£20 @ 1/3 LOST :o <br>BANK = Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£1365
26 plays, BANK UP Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£365. 23 Wins, 3 Losses.
<br>Thanks Matron and Slippy :biggrin: I would settle for a nice apartment just off Regents Park personally! Long way to go before then though! heheMarch 5, 2002 at 17:43 #39508beardMember
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I have checked your system for the complete month of February and you would show a profit of 436 pounds for that month.<br>The only problem I see is laying which horse when the betting is close.i.e 7/2 joint favs just before the off means in your system that you do not play,but one of these can easily be returned 3/1 fav.<br>In a lot of cases it also difficult to predict which horse will start fav.For example in the last race at Exeter today<br>Devote opened at 9/4 but drifted to be returned at 4/1 whilst Capprichio opened at5/1 but was supported to 7/2 fav.<br>Theory is good but in practice,in some cases,not so good.March 5, 2002 at 18:03 #39509
Beard, well in practice you would be watching the market on Betfair at the time and lay the favourite just before the off, thus you are more likely to be able to see the actual favourite.. as in your example with Capriccio there. Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â
If it is a close betting heat and you cannot tell if one is going to be favourite on the off then just leave it alone, it really won’t affect the statistics of it in the long run. If there have been times during the running of the system that you may not have been able to lay the horse in question then I apaologise, however if you do follow this system you will still make your profit over time.
The other consideration is that occasionally you may have to offer up slightly better value than just one odds increment higher than SP. Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â Although on other occasions you could get the actual SP or even something shorter. This would even out over the long run too. Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â In practice I would not play on a horse if I was having to offer up value that is more than 0.15 above the actual odds because this will significantly shorten the profit margin…. Again, in the long run missing out some of them because of this will even out and you will still show the profit because of the built in over-round of the bookies, ie the value is almost* always on the side of the bookies. Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â These are minor things though ;) Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â The advent of the betdaq exchange opening will also avail better value to the layer (as well as the punter!).
The figures I have quoted in the system so far are acheivable I feel. Like I say, some cases as a layer you would have gotten poorer value, some you could have layed at a shorter price, but at some point in 95% of these betting heats, the prices I have quoted would have been matched. It is the idea that counts, if you miss one or two then it won’t make a big difference to the profit you have made in say 6 months time… and the ones you do miss are just as likely/unlikely to win as the the ones you do play.
Hope I’m making sense!… probably not! :biggrin: Its more of an eye opening system than a hard fast — DO THIS AND MAKE MONEY type thing. :)
(Edited by larry layer at 6:14 pm on Mar. 5, 2002)March 6, 2002 at 14:13 #39510beardMember
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Larry more stats on your system.
August 2001 showed a profit of 164.00 pounds
January 2002 showed a profit of 510.00 pounds
Have you found THE system?March 6, 2002 at 16:44 #39511
haha! :) I’m sure it’s just one of many out there! Gotta say, laying is definitely the way to go though, IMO. + I’m happy today cos I just made slightly under Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£100 on the ftse betting :) (Im a betfair addict, I admit it!) Right, time to size up these last of the day Favs.. ;)March 6, 2002 at 17:15 #39512
Bangor 4.50 Son Of Anshan LAY Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£20 @ 12/5 LOST<br>BANK = Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£1385
Catterick 5.00 Peterson’s Cay LAY Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£20 @ 3/1 LOST<br>BANK = Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£1405
Lingfield 5.10 Nayyir LAY Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£20 @ 1/3 WON<br>BANK = Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£1398.33
29 Plays, BANK UP Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£398.33. 25 Wins, 4 Losses.<br>March 7, 2002 at 17:29 #39513nallMember
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Another Successful Day @ the Office.<br>Well Done.
Regards nallMarch 7, 2002 at 17:35 #39514
Wincanton 4.55 Sure Future LAY Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£20 @ 11/5 LOST<br>BANK = Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£1418.33
Towcester 5.10 Sparkling Sword LAY Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£20 @ 11/8 LOST<br>BANK = Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£1438.33
31 Plays, BANK UP Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£438.33 27 Wins, 4 Losses.
You know as soon as I put my own money on the line things will change… i might have a go tomorrow.March 7, 2002 at 18:12 #39515
Hi nall,didnt see you there, must have posted it while I was typing :) thanks! Can it keep going…March 9, 2002 at 09:08 #39516
Sandown 5.05 First Love LAY Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£20 @ 4/9 WON<br>BANK = Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£1429.53
Ayr 5.15 Justupyourstreet LAY Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£20 @ 11/4 LOST<br>BANK = Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£1449.53
Hereford 5.25 Mr Dow Jones LAY Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£20 @ 11/8 WON<br>BANK = Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£1422.03
34 Plays, BANK UP Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£422.03. 28 Wins, 6 Losses.
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