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Cape Blanco 6/1. Workforce is too short to back, it’s a group1 race and there ain’t a STS every year.
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Yep; he’s only got to find around 10l from somewhere!
:? Nothing shocking about 14/1 mate a very good filly but no KG winner.
This is very true.
Harbinger, Workforce and Cape Blanco to fight out the finish.
Daryakana will shock everyone apart from me who knows how good she is on a right handed course. and good ground she get 20/1 is good price.
"darren83" wrote: Daryakana will shock everyone apart from me who knows how good she is on a right handed course. and good ground she get 20/1 is good price.
Yes, Daryakana could run better than her price suggests. Shew was undoubtedly hindered by the sprint finish last time out and she should prove to be better than that run suggests.
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Dear Fist; Most world class trainers hire a jockey who does what he is told and not the other way around. Even Frankie must ride to instructions.But your position on jockeys is certainly worth of debate.The suggetion that jockeys know more than trainers certainly applied to Lestor Piggott.
Perhaps it is differ here, jockeys here don’t do morning work.Agents ask for rides.Like Godolfin, stables stretch across the continent and jockeys don’t.As for giving a horse very hard races back to back for his third and fourth race (after only one race as a two year old);that can take a lot out of a young and inexperienced horse and he may not come back ready to race again until next year.
I am presuming that the KG will be a tough race,it always is.
I agree that SMS is not what you described and I am not suggesting that he is.Oh you’re American! I’m sorry I never realised.
I have no idea what goes on re riding arrangements in the Uk but unless a yard has more than one top jockey employed you’ll find the jockey gets all the top rides unless the owner has a special relationship with an outside jockey.
The day top jockeys do as they are told is the day they leave the yard…..Richard Hannon eg.can just imagine him telling Hughsie you don’t ride Canford Cliffs you ride whatever……he’d be looking for a new stable jockey the next day.
I agree back to back hard races can take a lot out of a horse but Workforce? SMS is a genius at improving young horses like him and once they hit for because he has been so patient they very very seldom don’t see out their first real season in top form.
No matter what you think of the Derby this horse won with so much in hand he looks above average even if not one of the greats………Harbinger has never reached those heights or even come close…..lovely horse but has his limitations and I can’t see him giving Workforce weight and beating him.
What’s left that’s sure to run? Cape Blanco……….that lot finished so close together in Ireland they just have to be one ordinary bunch.His chances of beating Workforce must be close to nil…….I wouldn’t touch him with a barge pole in a win only market at 20/1 never mind 6/1.
Workforce will run ok and he’ll win as the opposition is poor to say the least……..be a nice exercise gallop for him IMO
If Lester knew more than Dr M. V. O’Brien, I’ll eat my head, and everyone else’s into the bargain.
This is not a race to ruminate over. Just back Workforce then go collect your cash. Simple.
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I certainly wouldn’t be confident about collecting on workforce. How many times have horses won a group 1 by wide margins only to fall short next time??from xarr in the dewhurst hawk wing at newbury to royal anthem and bosra sham.There was something just not right about the derby result it was to funny a race to be taken at face value.At York wf was beaten an easy 3 lengths by cb and anyone who has ridden horse will know that the bit slipping doesn’t stop a horse going forward or faster and I can’t believe that wf improved 20/30 pounds from York if he did he wouldn’t have gone off at 8/1 the stoute yard and all I’d Newmarket would of been backing this one.He was beaten easily by cb at York and considering how bad the ballydoyle horses were needing that 1st run I expect it to be cb coming out on top.
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On a line through Midas Touch and Jan Vermeer, Cape Blanco has around 10l to find with Workforce, and as it was only W’s 3rd race of his life and he’s in the most capable of hands, it’s reasonable to expect him to improve even further.
On that evidence, anyone expecting Cape Blanco to find the stone or so improvement to win the KG is surely dreaming, and I sincerely doubt he’ll even turn up.I certainly wouldn’t be confident about collecting on workforce. How many times have horses won a group 1 by wide margins only to fall short next time??from xarr in the dewhurst hawk wing at newbury to royal anthem and bosra sham.There was something just not right about the derby result it was to funny a race to be taken at face value.At York wf was beaten an easy 3 lengths by cb and anyone who has ridden horse will know that the bit slipping doesn’t stop a horse going forward or faster and I can’t believe that wf improved 20/30 pounds from York if he did he wouldn’t have gone off at 8/1 the stoute yard and all I’d Newmarket would of been backing this one.He was beaten easily by cb at York and considering how bad the ballydoyle horses were needing that 1st run I expect it to be cb coming out on top.
That Dante form is almost unintelligable (spelling
) Coordinated Cuts proximity to the winners makes no sense and so you have to assume that race was hugely under whelming. According to RP standard times it was fast my 0.80 seconds and the Listed handicap straight after was fast by 1.58s and the Middleton (Sariska) before the Dante was fast by 1.30s. Basically it wasn’t a truely run race while not being a farce. Coordinated cut has finished 12l behind both Cape Blanco and Workforce in his last two runs.Cape Blancos first start of the year was also Workforces first of the year. Both probably needed to wind up before their real targets. This is the only real explanation for Coordinated cuts position in the Dante. Obviously Workforce and Cape Blanco are good but still didn’t run to form in that race. I don’t think the Dante is a useful form line – it doesn’t make sense.
As you said, there is something fishy about the Derby. It’s just hard to believe the other runners are THAT far off Workforce.
Yet another huge boost give to Harbinger’s form at Royal Ascot today. Anything over 3/1 must surely be snapped up.
Yet another huge boost give to Harbinger’s form at Royal Ascot today. Anything over 3/1 must surely be snapped up.
I’ve been torn between Harbinger and Profound Beauty since the entries came out but I must agree that the Tactic form line looks rather inferior to the Harbinger form after todays race.
Yet another huge boost give to Harbinger’s form at Royal Ascot today. Anything over 3/1 must surely be snapped up.
I’ve been torn between Harbinger and Profound Beauty since the entries came out but I must agree that the Tactic form line looks rather inferior to the Harbinger form after todays race.
Will you stop kidding yourself Profound Beauty is a King George Filly! No Chance! Now put her up for the Irish St Leger and you could be on to a winner!
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Yet another huge boost give to Harbinger’s form at Royal Ascot today. Anything over 3/1 must surely be snapped up.
How does a win by Sans Frontieres over Redwood boost the chances of Harbinger?
Spanish Moon has run no sort of race after a 3 month absence. Crowded House has never and will never get 1m4f, Tazeez is a professional loser and the others were running above their station
Sans Frontiers has always been a decent animal and there was always a chance he’d cpme back to something like his best form……Considering he beat Redwood only a 1 length further than he did when beaten by Harbinger just how much improvment he has shown is hard to estimate.
Harbinger was one of my Fav horses last season but face facts he’s a Group 3 horse who has won a below average Group 2 race taking on an Epsom Derby winner and giving him weight albeit WFA.
Ryan Moore as expected will ride Workforce, Ryan Moore as expected will win simple as.
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