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Thanks, Miss Woodword. The past sloppy winners are a bit of a dead end, as they are quite spaced out, and the winners seem quite diverse. Have already had my bets on the roughies. However, I’ll spend a couple of hours looking at the pedigrees, as that is what I ought to be doing anyway. Will also look at the dosage Chef-de-race site, and on George William Smith’s site.
On another note, Bubble Economy just won the Virginia Gold Cup. He made his patented move 1/4 mile from the finish, then was passed by Bon Caddo. Bon Caddo had a length in front when Bubble Economy fought back in the final strides and won by a nose. A replay should be up soon. Bubbles was Timber Champion in 2004 and 2008, this is his 2nd Gold Cup win.
I’ve had a little look through the race, a brief look at best.
Awesome Act, Ice Box and American Lion are my 3. Usual CFC/CTC bets apply.
The track has been sealed so that it wicks out water, so it will be about as fast as usual, not as bad as last year.
Going on what has been said on the radio, "being sealed" just means that a roller has been used?
This means the base is firm, and speed is preferred?
Will the surface be sealed again before the race, or can rain get into the base again, to loosen it up again?
Doesn’t affect my bets, which are finished. I’d just like to know what’s going on.
The track has been sealed so that it wicks out water, so it will be about as fast as usual, not as bad as last year.
Going on what has been said on the radio, "being sealed" just means that a roller has been used?
This means the base is firm, and speed is preferred?
Will the surface be sealed again before the race, or can rain get into the base again, to loosen it up again?
Doesn’t affect my bets, which are finished. I’d just like to know what’s going on.
Yes, yes, probably not, if it rains hard enough then it can be loosened up. When you’ve got as much rain as they’re getting (>2 inches, most since 1918), sealing won’t do much good. Track seems to be favoring closers more as the day goes on.
Is there a live streaming anywhere online?
I have RUK online but they are not showing it via the internet (damn disgrace)
http://www.atdhe.net/index.html
Normally reliable unless it’s a big Champions League game and the server is overloaded.
Cheers Euro, thats doing the trick for me currently
Only looked at a few horses, and Lady Beaverbrook will turn in her grave, but I’ve backed a horse at a short price
http://www.pedigreequery.com/mission+impazible
21, in addition to the long-priced ones. Quite like the look and shape of his pedigree, and don’t quite see where the view that it won’t stay 10f comes from.
Talking out of my ass, but I do that when I’m sober as well.
If I told you I’ve made a £900 profit today you wouldn’t believe me, so I won’t.
Calvin Bo-RAIL wins with Super Saver! He’s won 3 of 4 of the last KY Derbies, good for him!
And Pletcher breaks the Derby jinx
I watched that jockey butcher Rachel Alexander in the Woodward last year and he’s done the same there on Super Saver. He may be a champ over the pond but I wouldn’t let him on a Blackpool beach donkey. Animal Aid would have a field day if a jockey did that over here.
And while I’m on about Blackpool donkeys I wouldn’t run one on that muck that passes for a racetrack in Kentucky. How they can run any race on it, much less a so called classic is unbelieveable.
I watched that jockey butcher Rachel Alexander in the Woodward last year and he’s done the same there on Super Saver. He may be a champ over the pond but I wouldn’t let him on a Blackpool beach donkey. Animal Aid would have a field day if a jockey did that over here.
And while I’m on about Blackpool donkeys I wouldn’t run one on that muck that passes for a racetrack in Kentucky. How they can run any race on it, much less a so called classic is unbelieveable.
I agree with you about Borel’s ride today, the whip really wasn’t necessary. Supposedly these new cushion whips require more taps to have an "effect’, but I don’t buy that.
While it was one of the muddiest Derbies in recent memory, that’s what makes dirt racing so interesting. Some racehorses actually like the mud, and run better in it. Malibu Moon offspring, for example, seem to take to it very well. An off track isn’t any more dangerous than a fast one. In the 136 years of the Kentucky Derby, there has been a single death (Eight Belles), and that was on a fast track.
I should also note that this was the late Maria’s Mon’s second Derby-winning son, after Monarchos.
The Preakness looks like it’ll be a better race, with newcomers like Bushwhacked (Jonathan Sheppard horse!), Hurricane Ike (Derby Trial winner), Drosselmeyer, Caracortado, Uptowncharliebrown, etc. Borel promised us a Triple Crown, I don’t exactly believe him, but anything that draws public interest is welcome.
Sharing photos from the day…
http://www.network54.com/Forum/366748/thread/1272885780/last-1272888590/2010+OZshots%21
http://www.network54.com/Forum/366748/thread/1272825760/last-1272826060/Photos+by+ELK
I have never been to the Kentucky Derby,
so I enjoy the photographs taken by our UIC members…
I hope you will too.
Oh dear, what has the Kentucky Derby turned into? Of the last 2 winners, between them they’d lost their previous 5 starts. Compare that to our Derby. The only 2 winners since 95 that were beaten on their previous start finished 2nd in Classics.
Oh dear, what has the Kentucky Derby turned into? Of the last 2 winners, between them they’d lost their previous 5 starts. Compare that to our Derby. The only 2 winners since 95 that were beaten on their previous start finished 2nd in Classics.
Well, how many preps do your horses have before the Epsom Derby? Our racing season is longer, and even now in the age of fewer starts American trainers tend to race their colts to fitness. The idea is to have the horse peak in the Kentucky Derby, not in any race beforehand, so they generally don’t want the horse to run all out. In fact, that’s one of the reasons Pletcher had such hard luck in getting a Derby winner. His horses would run lights out a race or two before the Derby, then get used up in the big race itself.
In order to get into the field, however, a horse must get enough graded stakes earnings, so they have to have some excellent performances behind them. Mine That Bird won 4 in a row in his 2yo year, including the G3 Grey Stakes, and was Champion 2yo in Canada. Super Saver’s win in the G2 Kentucky Jockey Club S. at 2 got him on many Derby watchlists, and he didn’t embarass himself at all with a 3rd in the G3 Tampa Bay Derby and a 2nd in the Arkansas Derby, improving with each start.
This isn’t a new phenomenon. Sir Barton broke his maiden in the 1919 Kentucky Derby and ended up winning the Triple Crown. Even Secretariat lost his previous start, the Wood Memorial, before his record-breaking Derby win.
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