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i’m absoloutley gutted, kauto didnt show what he was capable of there. You cant blame the trainer or the jockey because he wanted to make it a test of stamina knowing that our vic (Who was the only horse with decent form of late) didnt get the run of the race. And he didnt, kauto was looking to forge clear before the second last, but ploughed through it, Obviously it was the cheltenham run which had a lasting effect on the horse and he isnt finished and i refuse to jump on the band wagon. Kauto Star will be back next year as good as ever, hes ran far more races than denman this year and they have been much harder.
As a true supporter of kauto i do not think he has passed it and there are valid reasons for the tactics today, you may be able to claim he should have done this or that but at the end of the day, paul nicholls is a champion trainer and ruby walsh a great jockey and kauto star a special horse.
He who laughs last…
bring on next year
If they had already won the Order Of Merit, I don’t think the horse would have run today – In much the same way that I’m sure they wouldnt have run Azertyuiop at Sandown if they had secured the Trainer’s Championship
I thought it was Clive Smith looking to end the season on a winning note, and giving the horse the pubic profile he deserves.
Surely a bit harsh Salse, although he did put in a hairy jump at the second last, and looked pretty bushed close home…
Aidan, the problem with Kauto’s last two runs is Exotic Dancer who gives a solid look to the form. .
ED is not a "solid" guide in terms of form this season IMO.
Too soon after the Gold Cup, should have put him away for the season and brought him back fresh next season, 3 races in 47 days he’s just had..
I think that the use of any single horse as a form guide puts one on shaky ground, and Exotic Dancer remains clearly well below what he has previously been capable of, for whatever reason.
I think that the use of any single horse as a form guide puts one on shaky ground, and Exotic Dancer remains clearly well below what he has previously been capable of, for whatever reason.
True, but it seems to have been OK to do that whilst Kauto Star was winning. We can’t take Monets Garden as a guide (what the hell was it doing in this race in the first place) as he doesn’t seem to get three miles over fences, so how about Gungadu a 161 rated chaser on the upgrade beaten 14 lengths and two diatances. I expect he’s ran below form as well. I suppose as they have all ran well below their best today it seems very fortunate for Our Vic to have won.
Kauto needs a long rest I think. This was a race he should have won with relative ease but due to some dodgy tactics and pish poor jumping he lost by a nose. This is not the classy Kauto we (most of us) know and love.
‘The race was too soon’
I think this statement is profoundly wrong. The horse beaten a nose after obliterating the 2nd last fence. Would have won comfortably if it wasn’t for that error.
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Gungadu a 161 rated chaser on the upgrade beaten 14 lengths and two diatances. I expect he’s ran below form as well.
If he hasn’t, the first three are better than Arkle.
Not fortunate aaron – he has put in the best performance on the day.
ED has been below his previous best for a while now (one wonders what he is still capable of) and KS probably shouldn’t have been running.
Our Vic ran as well as could have been expected (and possibly a bit better) and put in a very game run.
Monet’s Garden and Gungadu have both run poorly.
If they had already won the Order Of Merit, I don’t think the horse would have run today – In much the same way that I’m sure they wouldnt have run Azertyuiop at Sandown if they had secured the Trainer’s Championship
I agree and have posted my views last week on another thread. I do hope KS will not become another Azertyuiop.
JohnJ.
One thing I strongly feel is that since that injury scare after his cheltenahm prep, Kauto Star has not been the same horse.
I hope he makes it back to his old self next season…
I think Nicholls is in denial.
His comments in today’s RP about Kauto Star running better in this year’s Gold Cup than last year’s were just his attempt to ease his conscience: re-interpreting the facts to justify him running the horse again when he clearly finished tired.
His comments after today’s race (the tactics beat him) are the same: another way to avoid admitting that Kauto Star should have been put away for the season.
The combination of the horse now seemingly being disposable because the stable has Denman, and Nicholl’s flimsy self-justifications have me fearing for the horse’s health – they’re talking about bringing him out at Sandown now. Unbelievable…
And if you think Nicholls isn’t that bad – you just have to remember Azertyuiop’s last race (at Sandown).
Hang on a minute – KS and ED have been taking each other on for two seasons. Apart from the GC, there has been a consistent look about the finishing positions in their races. The closest ED got was in this year’s Betfair but I am of the opinion KS was not fully at his peak this year until the King George.
I can’t be having these arguments that everytime KS runs below form, so, conveniently, does ED. ED ran a perfectly respectable race today and finished where one might expect him to based upon the majority of his form with KS.
I honestly believe KS was beaten by tactics today, although I am loathe to take away credit from the Pipe yard for a gallant success. I honestly believe KS was beaten fair and square at Cheltenham. As I have said before today, I saw KS in a different light today and I am glad he has come back in one piece. He is not however the horse his fans believed he was I am afraid. But that is not to say his achievements thus far have not been immense – not many horses have won two King George’s and a Gold Cup and Tingle Creek.
I can’t be bothered writing along post as I am still fuming at PN best thing is read NWRA’s post as he says it all
I think Nicholls is in denial.
His comments in today’s RP about Kauto Star running better in this year’s Gold Cup than last year’s were just his attempt to ease his conscience: re-interpreting the facts to justify him running the horse again when he clearly finished tired.
His comments after today’s race (the tactics beat him) are the same: another way to avoid admitting that Kauto Star should have been put away for the season.
The combination of the horse now seemingly being disposable because the stable has Denman, and Nicholl’s flimsy self-justifications have me fearing for the horse’s health – they’re talking about bringing him out at Sandown now. Unbelievable…
And if you think Nicholls isn’t that bad – you just have to remember Azertyuiop’s last race (at Sandown).
My best friend was atrainer before he was killed he would turn in his grave reading your post as it is so accurate……….He would have beat the crap out of me if I had even suggested running Kauto here, if he was mine, after Ascot and Chetenham…..Pipes another one Loch Derg has never ran 9 races in a season in his life and he’s had it tougher than Kauto….Order of Merit>………Cruelty it should be called
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