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    Frenchy15
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    Potato’s got verbal & statistical diarrhea again!

    SBS today … “I think he will need this race, but I’m hoping for a good run”

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    potato
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    Standard trainer to media statement on a horse having its first run back from a break.

    The team would have been shocked had he said anything else.

    #1463076
    Frenchy15
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    Could be, but not if he finishes 4th!

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    potato
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    IF YOU SEE THE WINNER AND ITS ANNA NERIUM
    CONSULT A DOCTOR AND GET TREATMENT FOR YOUR DELERIUM

    UAE JEWEL THE UNBEATEN HORSE
    I KNOW A BEAST WHO WILL SHOW YOU THE FORCE

    ZAAKI IS TRAINED BY A MASTER IN SIR MICHAEL STOUTE
    BUT THIS ISNT WINNING THERE ISNT A DOUBT

    KING OF COMEDY TO WIN THAT MUST BE A JOKE
    IF YOU BACK THIS HORSE YOU END UP BROKE

    HAPPY POWER IS THE WORLDS ONLY HOPE
    BUT THE BEAST WILL MAKE EVEN THIS HORSE LOOK LIKE A DOPE

    LOOK AT HIM GO WHAT A SITE TO BEHOLD
    ITS BENBATL THE BEAST
    AND HIS MEDAL IS GOLD

    YOU CANNOT TAKE ON THE BEAST AND SURIVIVE
    ONE STARE FROM THE ALPHA HORSE AND YOUR FORM FIGURES DIVE

    AN EQUINE MACHINE A GROUP 1 KING
    THATS WHY BENBATL THE BEAST IS THE HORSE WITH THE STING

    :yes: :yes: :yes: :heart:

    FIRST WE GET THE GROUP TWO
    THEN WE WIN A GROUP ONE FOR FUN :heart:

    #1463097
    FinalFurlong91
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    Both paul Kealy and tom Segal have put up benbatl in the post today

    So he could get considerable support from their followers

    #1463099
    potato
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    After yesterdays huge wave of support from 13/2 into 4/1 another huge wave is happening now. All of them are cutting into 7/2 as we speak. Should carry on for a bit and continue to drop.

    I think when the oncourse punters see the physical brilliance of this horse stood next to the gangly king of comedy they will be in no doubt as to what they are about to witness and will bet accordingly. Could actually go off even shorter than 9/4 though KOC will always have fans so probably wont challenge for favouritism but just might do.

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    Avatar photoTriptych
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    Godolphin horses do really well at Newmarket and being an ardent follower of the boys in blue would love to see Benbatl to win this however SBS has stated that he thinks he might need the race, will know more when I see him in the paddock today but he to me is a horse who has run his best races in his later years away from our shores.

    Truly can’t see past King Of Comedy in this however I do think that Zaaki could step up and take it. I have taken on John Gosden so many times and he always plays his trump cards at this meeting, so I’m ready to be thrashed again as this a race that Michael Stoute likes to win and Zaaki gave such a thrilling account of himself against ill fated Beat The Bank he is not short of courage.
    So….. being a glutton for punishment it’s Zaaki to win and a reverse forecast with KOC. :rose: Jac

    Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...
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    Frenchy15
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    Zaaki is very weak in the market, so not that surprised Benbatl is shortening. That said if he comes in anymore from 7/2 then I’d get very interested.

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    I think you will find Zaakis weakness is due to Benbatls strength in the market not the other way round.

    you are very lucky to be witnessing THE BEAST in the flesh today Tryptych. What a sight to behold.

    #1463105
    Frenchy15
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    Don’t think so, Zaaki is longer than UAE Jewell on Betfair as well now. He’s very weak in the market.

    #1463106
    potato
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    OK Sorry Frenchy I forgot you had read Fallons book.

    The horse who has gone from 8/1 2 days ago to 7/2 and falling in the market isnt fancied. My mistake.

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    potato
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    The horse that everybody, media, punters all seem to be overlooking is Happy Power. People are making a big mistake overlooking this horse because if Benbatl ran a long way beneath his best then something else has to win and its in this scenario he becomes a huge player here.

    Benbatl wont be 100% today thats a fact it dosnt matter what Saeed says race fitness is what will take him to 100%. At 90% as a triple group 1 winning international jetsetting superstar he will still beat todays field in a group 2 without a penalty. He could win by 5 lengths today but will still improve next time on whatever he does today. This is a major group 1 player this Autumn. Today is a warm up but you would be disappointed should he not handle this field today even below full pelt.

    He is such an alpha and you will see that at the start pre race when you see his huge muscular frame. That feeble 3yo will not dare to pass even if he was good enough which he isnt.

    THE BEAST is so big and scary that even THE LEGEND the heavyweight champion of 2020 gold cup ELEGANT ESCAPE would take a 2nd look though THE LEGEND would ultimately win in a horse fight. :yes:

    This race doesnt start when the gates open it starts as they canter down to post and THE BEAST looks todays rivals in the eye. Most of this field will be psychologically damaged from this moment onwards and some will NEVER recover from it.

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    Frenchy15
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    OK Sorry Frenchy I forgot you had read Fallons book.

    The horse who has gone from 8/1 2 days ago to 7/2 and falling in the market isnt fancied. My mistake.

    Sorry Potato, I know your arrogance struggles with other people’s opinions but for me he was 8/1 before the decs, the race has cut up to just 6 and the previous anti post second fav is very weak in the market so Benbatl is entitled to shorten he’s a 3 times group 1 winner. In fact as you’re probably aware I tipped him at 8/1 as a saver bet earlier in the thread but you ignore that because you just like to argue.

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    Avatar photoSteeplechasing
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    Damn! Pogo is a non runner. Bounce factor?

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    FinalFurlong91
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    Well done benbatl backers

    Absolute procession

    Great training performance from sbs

    The king of comedy hype was clearly just that

    #1463130
    Frenchy15
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    This was an impressive run back after a long lay off. Interesting to see where he goes now. No harm done with the betting but can’t not be disappointed with KOC though, blew his chance right at the start.

    Hoping if Benbatl does go to Ascot, he’ll run in the Champion Stakes, as I have Magna Grecia at 14s for the QEII and the favourite has just been taken out of that!

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    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    Maybe FF91
    He’s doubled in price for both races on Champions Day
    It would depend I guess on how much work Gosden had put into prior to this, which would have been a stepping stone. I’m sure he’ll run better next time out but not a horse for me
    Well done those on Benbatal after that long lay off, a fantastic performance

    Gaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026

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