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Dawn Run died as the result of a fall at a top racecourse and as Luke points out on her fourth outing of the season.
The mare had had three previous starts and the owner wanted to run her in the race that was most suitable – in this instance given her proven stamina it was to attempt a repeat of her 1984 win in the French Champion Hurdle over 3m+, she was lightly raced that season and they were hardly trying something that the mare wasn’t used to or they knew wouldn’t be able to handle.
Her death was an unfortuante accident – nothing more and nothing less.
I think befair’s original post poses a perfectly reasonable question.
There’s little doubt SWC is a very talented amateur, but who wouldn’t like to see Someone with Ruby’s talent on Long Run?
The horse hit almost every fence in the back straight on the second circuit of the Betfair – the fact he got so close in the end makes it a remarkable performance.
Only one UK race (his KG) featured an error-free round. The Waley-Cohens are perfectly entitled to do what they want with their horse; equally, NH fans are just as entitled to speculate on just how good the horse could be with a top-notch pro on board.
Would Long Run be better served by a professional and more able jockey ? My answer is yes !
As for Dawn Run : great mare, but it can be reasonably argued that had it not been for the unfair, and many would say, unjust sex allowance, then her Champion Hurdle and Gold Cup triumphs may not have occured.
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i dont think sam is a great jockey but i dont think it was him that got the horse beat yesterday you could have put anybody up on long run yesterday and he still wouldnt have beaten kauto star long runs jumping wasnt that bad imo kauto jumped as good as i have ever seen him jump yesterday maybe made long runs jumping look worse than it was also agree owners should be entitled to put up who they want on a horse
i think sam waley cohen should keep the ride. hes proved his pudding in the gold cup, so thats that.
if you ask me about the betfair chase, long runs jumping was appalling, but i would say it was a poor training performance by henderson, rather than a poor ride.
if your looking to judge rides, i would judge barry geraghty. his last ride on grandouet was very similar to oscar whisky falling, speeding them up to the last hurdle then hesitating. very poor.
it makes me laugh that a while before the big mccoy criticism, calling him all the names under the sun. he’s light years ahead of any jump jockey.
still, if long runs jumping was spot on, he wouldn’t have beaten kauto, as the fitness was in the nicholl’s yard.
Would Long Run be better served by a professional and more able jockey ? My answer is yes !
As for Dawn Run : great mare, but it can be reasonably argued that had it not been for the unfair, and many would say, unjust sex allowance, then her Champion Hurdle and Gold Cup triumphs may not have occured.
After her Gold Cup win she beat the reigning Champion Chaser off level weights in a 2 mile match at Punchestown.She was clearly superior to her opponents over hurdles and fences -it was just her style of running to do as little as possible.
And she won the GC as a virtual novice; how many great novices have bitten the dust in the GC since then; Beef or Salmon, Carvills Hill, Night Nurse, Gaffer, Gloria Victis.
She sgould have been looked after and allowed to achieve her full potential, just as Long Run should be.Mate your the worst case of after timing I have ever come across. She was accidentally killed much to the dismay of her owner trainer jockey and fans alike.
Any idiot can point the finger after the event and say this is what they should have done. Had she come home safely with a win they would’ve been hailed as brilliant.
Anyway, what the hell has that got to do with Long Run and who rides him? You’ve been told the man is held in the highest regard among his fellow jockeys and is more than capable.
Replace him for what? Maybe Barry Geharty can ride him? he fell off Grandouet and Oscar Whiskky be as well making it a treble..
What you fail to realize is that approximately 95% of falls are caused by horses errors not by jockey error. horses put down on them or decide to take off because their mate next to them did in almost every race of the day. They are after all dumb animals (no disrespect meant)
Gawd knows Sam has plenty experience and knows what commands to use while riding but If Long Run can’t get them through his thick skull to take off when asked then he’s not all of a sudden going to become Einstein because Barry is on board.
He’s a horse with too much distance between his eyes and his brain imo and will never learn no matter who’s on board.
He must be at least a little dumb because no one but no one schools them better than Nicky Henderson.
So what you are saying is that LR would not perform better with Ruby or AP or GB on board? Ludicrous, and unprofessional. Talented amateurs should stick to their own class
Long Run turned up for that so fat he wouldn’t have looked out of place in a show ring. He also clearly hasn’t been near a set of clippers this winter, and IMO and all, his coat looked pretty poor.
S W-C has done a fine job with him thus far and so may it continue.
Real issue is can we find someone who could at least ride one side of Cue Card, before the poor thing jacks it after losing confidence after being missed at every fence and having to help joe out at every single f’ing fence.
Talented amateur you say???
Get young Paddy Mullins up on him so. Sparkling form in the last 14 days: 3184111121321
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Long Run turned up for that so fat he wouldn’t have looked out of place in a show ring. He also clearly hasn’t been near a set of clippers this winter, and IMO and all, his coat looked pretty poor.
S W-C has done a fine job with him thus far and so may it continue.
Real issue is can we find someone who could at least ride one side of Cue Card, before the poor thing jacks it after losing confidence after being missed at every fence and having to help joe out at every single f’ing fence.
I don’t want to hijack the topic but if ever I saw a horse who wants to make it over fences and should be allowed to it’s Cue Card. Sizing Europe was one last season who wanted to be travelling at pace to utilise his jumping but was always being held up just off it till he finally got the pace he wanted in the Champion Chase.
I hate to see these types held up, it disappoints them, uses energy, and leaves them open to the errors CC made last time. Arkle is the race for him!
I hope that I am wrong but I fear that horse will become, in 2 years, a top class handicap chaser progressing to championship level in the Nicholls yard.
Hate to say it again, but Long Run lost by less than a length yesterday. Thought SWC rode a decent race, but surely a top jockey is worth at least a length over 3 miles. This horse hasn’t been allowed to reach his true potential
Hate to say it again, but Long Run lost by less than a length yesterday. Thought SWC rode a decent race, but surely a top jockey is worth at least a length over 3 miles. This horse hasn’t been allowed to reach his true potential
You have to be kidding me!
In 26 runs, he’s NEVER finished out the top three. At the age of eight his tally includes a Cheltenham Gold Cup (plus two third places) and two King George’s. Every outing for the last two-and-a-half years he has run to a mark of approximately 170-180.
A top professional jockey may have made some difference for sure, but his only defeats have been at the hands of Kauto Star, Bobs Worth, Synchronised, Silvianaco Conti and now Sir Des Champs. Those don’t sound like easy horses to pass no matter who’s on top!
An astonishingly consistent, top-quality performer who’s more than fulfilled his potential in my opinion.
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Hate to say it again, but Long Run lost by less than a length yesterday. Thought SWC rode a decent race, but surely a top jockey is worth at least a length over 3 miles. This horse hasn’t been allowed to reach his true potential
By the same token, over 99% of racehorses have not been allowed to reach their full potential. They have not been trained by the best trainer, or ridden by the best jockey, or attended by the best vet.
There are still some people who regard their area of National Hunt racing as a sport. You do the very best you can with what you’ve got. Sometimes the Olympic ideal of “the taking part” is what it is all about, and not just a trite little phrase. Well done to the Whaley-Cohen family for their sporting approach to taking part, to winning, and to losing.
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