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    I don’t go along with that Gladiateur, why would these people who have never had interest in the sport suddenly decide to tune in to horse racing because ITV don’t show much of the horses and concentrate on trivia instead?

    And in the event that you are correct, who exactly are the sectional times that clutter up the screen aimed at? Surely not at people who have never shown an interest in the sport before?
    I’m still waiting to know what the running clock is for because you never know precisely how far they have run in the race. The only point it can be of any use is when the race is finished.

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    Quite right, Gladders – your average daytime ITV viewer can’t be expected to remember from one broadcast to the next that there’s: food, drink AND chairs at the races, that’s THREE things ffs.

    Like me, they need the constant reminders.

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    #1611683
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    Maybe ITV should poach Jermaine Jenas from the BBC?

    #1611692
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    “who exactly are the sectional times that clutter up the screen aimed at”

    These (utterly pointless) additions are relatively recent sops to appease the cognoscenti, who had been complaining about being ignored.

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    Who is the GOAT? Who knows, indeed who cares? I just appreciate watching class in any sport.

    Even if we could have a race between Frankel and Baaeed* it still wouldn’t settle it. Take tennis. Federer, Nadal and Djokovic are undoubtedly three of the best players we’ve ever seen. They’ve all played each other dozens of times yet still nobody can decide who is the GOATest even of those three and that’s before you add anyone else into the mix.

    Any GOAT debate is lazy, meaningless filler, you can’t quantify it and there will never be consensus.

    *other GOATs are available.

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    “Any GOAT debate is lazy, meaningless filler, you can’t quantify it and there will never be consensus.”

    About the only one where there (almost) is consensus is Don Bradman is the best ever batsman. His Test average and centuries per innings is not just better than everyone else but massively better. If anyone is entitled to be a GOAT, he is.

    However, he never played a Test match in the Indian subcontinent and was vulnerable on the uncovered “sticky wickets” of his day.

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    Seeing as Frankel, Baaeed et al will never meet in a race at all, let alone in their respective primes, hence I can’t have a bet on it, I always have limited interest in “GOAT” debates.

    “GOAT” is a subject for winter evenings when there’s nothing else to talk about.

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    “About the only one where there (almost) is consensus is Don Bradman”

    Arkle over jumps. And Frankel as the greatest flat racehorse. There is (almost) consensus on those two, as well.

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    Again it is an “almost” consensus, as you say. Some people have questioned if Arkle’s Timeform rating is realistic and there are still voices in favour of the likes of Brigadier Gerard, Ribot, Sea Bird and Secretariat on the Flat.

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    In the same way as there are no shades of uniqueness – something is either unique or it is not – though the modern “fairly unique” brigade would have us believe otherwise, surely there is consensus or there isn’t?

    I think Arkle was the best chaser ever, Flyingbolt was clearly exceptional too, but it is an eyecatcher the two highest-rated Timeform chasers of all time were in the same era.

    But you could say the same about Mill Reef and Brigadier Gerard or, to an extent, Kauto Star and Denman, and Night Nurse and Monksfield over hurdles.

    I have my own criteria and own opinions, but others are entitled to their often contrary ones.

    Just as long as they realise that ultimately I’m right and they’re wrong.

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    So no Stradivarius and no Trueshan…. so the TV presenters have to show appalling images racegoers dressed up and lots of old footage that has been recoloured.
    After the adverts we will just see the Lonsdale runners at the start with proper look at them.
    The anchor is appalling and now we are getting views of Yorkshire.

    #1611871
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    The woman who said “wearing pink to make the boys wink” would be an okay alternative to Jermaine Jenas in trying to get people through the gates.. ;-) ;-)

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    #1611872
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    RTV has handed over to the most recent races at Carlisle and Newbury the instant the last horses have gone into the stalls.

    Apparently talking to Neil Callan about his children and Gay Kellaway about a charity for Ukraine is more important.

    #1611891
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    RTV now broadcasts an interview over the early stages of the 3.20 at Newbury. :wacko:

    #1611900
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    Why did Oli Bell have to ruin Rossa Ryan’s moment of happiness on State Occasion by asking him why he wasn’t riding Persian Force for Amo Racing on Sunday when he almost certainly knew the answer. Rossa got quite emotional I thought he looked really put on the spot. In the circs he gave a very diplomatic reply.

    Why not just congratulate the guy on a great ride instead of putting him through the mill. :wacko:

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    #1611903
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    Rossa should have said its because Richard Hannon was making out Persian Force is Pegasus with wings where in actual fact he is more like a three legged Monsieur Chevalier.

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    #1611935
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    I wonder if he did know. Frankly, while a personable and reasonably competent presenter, Olly doesn’t strike me as the sharpest knife in the drawer, nor a good actor and he seemed genuinely surprised, whereas the rest of the team seemed prepared to respond. Would lay odds that somebody in the production team told him to ask this and, basically, set him up.

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