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    PigsInBlankets
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    Mike – your criticism of the coverage and 6 character assassinations perhaps go a little further than finding it “challenging” :whistle:

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    Avatar photoGoldenMiller34
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    I see Chapman has lost his Dancing On Ice job after one week (he claims he quit. Yeah, right, Red Rum won the Derby). It’s a pity that such swift and decisive action by, presumably, the main powers that be within ITV was/is not replicated re his employment on the racing programme. This perhaps indicates that the ITV big bosses don’t watch/have no interest in their own racing coverage. One can imagine their horror when they realised what they had inflicted upon the mainstream Sunday evening audience.

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    BlackGold
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    steveh31
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    CrustyPatch
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    Matt Chapman really knows how to press the self-destruct button.

    Well done to ITV for getting rid of him on Dancing On Ice. :yahoo: My girlfriend had never heard of him or seen him but she rightly thought he was absolutely awful.

    Totally over the top, ridiculous intonation and completely lacking in any awareness as to what is appropriate. He doesn’t seem to realise his antics are not funny and just make him look ridiculous.

    He keeps getting opportunities but blows them. He had a golden opportunity when taken on as a racecourse commentator but then lost that by completely overdoing it and spoiling his commentaries with the same sort of crazy, immature vocal gymnastics.

    The same with trophy presentations. Completely the wrong tone.

    He deserves everything he gets in criticism. People don’t want an expanded and more glittering Dancing On Ice spoiled by him pratting about.

    Just hope Richard Hoiles doesn’t come to the rescue for more Ivor the Engine narrator impressions as another replacement for Tony Gubba, the previous voiceover commentator on Dancing On Ice.

    #1336939
    droffats
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    Have to say I like Chapman, he is one of the very few people who actually says it as it is. He speaks his mind and to my mind is a breath of fresh air.
    Shame on ITV

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    wordfromthewise
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    I agree that Chapman is an excellent pundit with a genuine passion and opinion about the game but that has got nothing to do with his inappropriate,unfunny voice overs and trophy presentations. No surprise that his shockingly bad debut on DOI has resulted in the sack.

    He needs to learn the lesson and stick to the punditry and forget any notion of being the comedy larger than life racing personality.

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    Avatar photoQuelle Farce
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    I think this is a lesson in ‘stick to what you know’.

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    I don’t know why Chapman can’t just tone it down and be professional. It’s classic Narcissism in that he has to be the attention seeker making it all about him, rather than the actual content.

    Just get on with the job and stop the Yeehaa, gagging for it, jiggy with it bull plop. Be known for being well prepared, well informed and, yes, you can still be frank and speak your mind. Nursery School is long gone son, act the age, not the willy size ;-)

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

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    Avatar photoMiddle_Of_March
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    Yep, fired. :yahoo:

    https://www.racingpost.com/news/news/chapman-axed-by-dancing-on-ice-after-controversial-debut/315310

    Why would you revel in a man losing his job?

    He’s one of the few people in our great sport that both genuinely cares about the sport (for example raising 250k for Freddy Tylicki or meeting 93 year old On The Line caller Madge) but is also willing to say it how it is.

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    What have these 4 “things” got in common?

    Darryll Holland
    The Tote
    Racecourse Commentating
    Dancing On Ice

    Pity ITV racing & ATR don’t follow suit.

    Does Chapman add or detract from horse racing and it’s coverage? For me it’s a definite detract.

    Not seen his performance on Dancing on Ice but read some of the tweets such as “cringeworthy”. That’s exactly how I would describe his harassment of people in the paddock prior to races or his fawning over jockeys or trainers he favours such as Adam Kirby last night.

    And interviewing jockeys prior to weighing in should be a definite no no. Poor old Nicola Currie was stood there with 2 stone of lead last night.

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    Avatar photoGoldenMiller34
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    He ends up interviewing Nicola Currie when he had hoped for a beyond the grave exclusive with John Curry :)

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    steveh31
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    What have these 4 “things” got in common?

    Darryll Holland
    The Tote
    Racecourse Commentating
    Dancing On Ice

    Pity ITV racing & ATR don’t follow suit.

    Does Chapman add or detract from horse racing and it’s coverage? For me it’s a definite detract.

    Not seen his performance on Dancing on Ice but read some of the tweets such as “cringeworthy”. That’s exactly how I would describe his harassment of people in the paddock prior to races or his fawning over jockeys or trainers he favours such as Adam Kirby last night.

    And interviewing jockeys prior to weighing in should be a definite no no. Poor old Nicola Currie was stood there with 2 stone of lead last night.

    Yeats you are a dinosaur on here Chapman is well liked by viewers and lots of people love him if you don’t like him tune to the snobs on racing uk and don’t watch atr or itv racing.

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    Avatar photoGoldenMiller34
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    Yeats isn’t a dinosaur. Like me and many I expect he prefers the coverage on RUK. In general, the RUK presenters and analysts are highly professional, intelligent, informative, humorous when appropriate and I find their broadcasts have a rich quality. They are not snobbish and I say that as a Tory-hating Millwall fan! It is extremely rare that I have to endure a snippet of ITV/ATR coverage to catch a big Jumps race. But even then Chapman is unavoidable.

    If that sort of style is what you prefer, Steve, good for you. Happy viewing. My concern is over whether the Chapman personality (like McCririck before him) is the correct image for racing to project to mainstream, casual viewers. Is it going to win over the young or is it, in fact, reinforcing a stereotypical impression of racing – shouty, loutish, lads only – that may alienate and lose potential viewers? My fear is that Chapman puts people off and that is bad for racing as a whole going forward. (Facing a ratings slump Dancing On Ice wasted no time in axing him).

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    steveh31
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    Yeats isn’t a dinosaur. Like me and many I expect he prefers the coverage on RUK. In general, the RUK presenters and analysts are highly professional, intelligent, informative, humorous when appropriate and I find their broadcasts have a rich quality. They are not snobbish and I say that as a Tory-hating Millwall fan! It is extremely rare that I have to endure a snippet of ITV/ATR coverage to catch a big Jumps race. But even then Chapman is unavoidable.

    If that sort of style is what you prefer, Steve, good for you. Happy viewing. My concern is over whether the Chapman personality (like McCririck before him) is the correct image for racing to project to mainstream, casual viewers. Is it going to win over the young or is it, in fact, reinforcing a stereotypical impression of racing – shouty, loutish, lads only – that may alienate and lose potential viewers? My fear is that Chapman puts people off and that is bad for racing as a whole going forward. (Facing a ratings slump Dancing On Ice wasted no time in axing him).

    Peter Naughton none of those the worse presenter ever on a racing channel
    Stuart Machin dull as ditchwater
    Nick Luck – dull and humourless snob

    Many more could be mentioned.

    Maybe refrain from saying Chapman was sacked when it is quoted in most media that he quit.

    Chapman does bring viewers in as ratings for itv racing show, itv rescued racing from deaths door and Chapman and the team have brought new audiences to a sport that was dying on Channel 4 through their use of dullards like Nick Luck. Your fears have been proved wrong with the ratings.

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    chestnut
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    Racing may have been dying on Channel 4 and the viewing figures have improved since moving to ITV, but whether these have anything to do with the presenters on either channel is very debatable.

    Are the improved viewing figures not just a case of the further you move up the channel list the better the viewing figures are? Has the moving of The Great British Bake Off not proved this. Although it maybe Channel 4s, according to the viewing figures, best ever show. It does not get anywhere near to the viewers it got on BBC1.

    7.7 million for the 2017 final compared to 15.9 for 2016 final on BBC1.

    #1337252
    runandskip84
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    Not sure about the viewing figures,2million went missing on Grand National Day and the Opening Show and ITV4 are down so the overall total for 2017 may well be less but the Racing Post have been strangely silent on the subject so who knows?
    As for Matt Chapman he clearly was hired by ITV racing to appeal to all the knuckle draggers but obviously even they cant put up with him so maybe he will rethink his style with trophy presentions etc

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