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- March 4, 2017 at 20:46 #1289900
Well, I’m still loving it; watching a programme with presenters who seem to thoroughly enjoy what they’re doing.
March 4, 2017 at 22:25 #1289918Nick who?
March 5, 2017 at 07:38 #1289947Oli Bell is the best presenter
, but they all add their own style even warming to Matt Chapman now after the initial ‘hair or no hair’ disaster. Mick Fitz seems more at home with this team and Luke Harvey is likeable enough although his tips are a bit like mine at the moment all ending up on the rubbish heap.Like stilvi says Nick who? Also include Tanya and Emma in that, Alice is doing fine girls.
Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...March 5, 2017 at 12:38 #1289994Listening to winning jockeys after race nonsense, he jumped well ran well.
ITV 7 dreadful, Lucy sadly whats the point.
Chapman stick to attheraces, get the feeling your being constrained.
Just like football don`t go out of my way to watch.March 5, 2017 at 13:21 #1290007Far too much use of the tracking camera. To clearly see how the whole field is travelling and to appreciate the wider perspective of the race the main camera angles are essential. A little use of close up is an enhancement but over reliance on same obscures more than is revealed.
The camera use was getting on my nerves. You can’t see how they are jumping the fences and that is one of the most crucial elements in assessing how a horse is performing.
To be honest, I just flit in and out for the race(s) themselves and ignore the rest of it. For me, Luke Harvey is a weak link, he is far from fluent, mangling the language at times and he couldn’t tip a snooker cue.
Finally, when, oh when, are they going to stop the old chestnut that “Sego Success will relish this stamina test”
The further this horse goes up in distance, the worse he tends to perform. I couldn’t believe he was roughly the same odds as The Last Samuri at one stage. The team should be herding the viewers away from these under-performers.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
March 6, 2017 at 14:15 #1290159Well, I’m still loving it; watching a programme with presenters who seem to thoroughly enjoy what they’re doing.
Totally agree. Channel 4 was too smug for its own good. One thing I have noticed is that the guests on the show seen much more entertaining and more knowledgeable than before. Amazed there is such a huge difference of opinion on ITV but think it’s a big improvement myself.
March 11, 2017 at 16:55 #1291170After a promising start things seem to be slipping backwards.
Sam Twiston-Davies was dire this morning. Why is this dullard so often the go to man from the weighing room? That must have been the most unfunny prank of all time. Unfortunately, next week they have got the man who likes to give the impression that punters are akin to vermin.
To maintain any credibility they are going to have to ‘lose’ Hayley Turner at some point. On all known evidence that was a ridiculous signing.
March 11, 2017 at 18:13 #1291187I thought Hayley was excellent today from what I saw. Very interesting insights from a jockeys perspective and she called the races perfectly. I think she BRINGS credibility.
"this perfect mix of poetry and destruction, this glory of rhythm, power and majesty: the undisputed champion of the world!!!"
March 14, 2017 at 15:09 #1291915This is certainly not better than Channel 4.
Nick Luck is a way better anchor than Chamberlain…..world class in fact.
Gleeson is brilliant at conveying betting ring excitement….not what he is made to do here.
Graham Cunningham and Jim McGrath were excellent at evaluating form and Cunningham was amusing aswell.
Hoiles is not a better commentator than Simon Holt and could do with turning his mic up for starters.
McCoy is getting worse and should be dropped ( doesnt want to be there) and Fitzgerald has nothing but cliches to offer.
Chapman just doesn’t seem to suit the big occaision…..not as bad as Tanya but not the answer either.Itv have changed things for changes sake without doing anything that different but the changes they’ve made have been bad ones and they’re bringing no gravitas to the sports premier meeting and even though its early on day 1 we can be confident that it wont change.
March 14, 2017 at 15:19 #1291923This is certainly not better than Channel 4.
Nick Luck is a way better anchor than Chamberlain…..world class in fact.
Gleeson is brilliant at conveying betting ring excitement….not what he is made to do here.
Graham Cunningham and Jim McGrath were excellent at evaluating form and Cunningham was amusing aswell.
Hoiles is not a better commentator than Simon Holt and could do with turning his mic up for starters.
McCoy is getting worse and should be dropped ( doesnt want to be there) and Fitzgerald has nothing but cliches to offer.Itv have changed things for changes sake without doing anything that different but the changes they’ve made have been bad ones and they’re bringing no gravitas to the sports premier meeting and even though its early on day 1 we can be confident that it wont change.
Strange how people see the same thing differently: I’d say that Chamberlin is far superior to the boring Luck; that Gleeson is a waste of space, full stop; McGrath was tedious and Cunningham insipid (and far too full of himself); about Hoiles being inferior to Holt, I’d agree; McCoy is, to me, growing into his role and Fitzgerald is starting to add genuine insight. Just goes to prove that you can’t please all the people all the time.
Now, I’m all for seeing more ethnic minorities on television but that’s twice that ITV have interviewed Hussain, who looks after Altior. Surely they could’ve worked out after the first interview that he doesn’t speak much English, so why go back to him after the race? Then we get Mr Anodyne himself, Rishi Persad, waffling on à propos nothing in the build-up to the Champion Hurdle. When the only non-white faces you see are some lad who can barely string a coherent sentence together (and Hussain), there is a serious problem.
Edit: They have really messed up the parade before the Champion Hurdle. Shocking coverage.
March 14, 2017 at 17:18 #1291973Honestly, 10 weeks in and they still haven’t learnt to block out the crowd noise and grandstand commentary when their own racing commentary is on?
It’s a simple lever folks, up to increase the background noise, down to get rid of it. Even an amateur could have worked that out by now.
March 14, 2017 at 17:26 #1291980Is there a highlights show on ITV at all tonight that will include the two non-ITV races from this afternoon?
March 14, 2017 at 19:37 #1292041Not sure counting and commenting on the contribution of ‘ethnic minorities’ adds much of relevance to the discussion Gladiateur but very good of you to be ‘all for’ seeing more of them

Personally I defend the right of anyone on television of any gender or ethnicity to be as crap as they want to be, everyone is individual and represent themselves and ONLY themselves ,they are not in some kind of ambassadorial role to promote ethnic or any other minority and don’t need to be patronised by anyone.
Treat people as individuals and you’ll scarcely ever stray into dodgy patronising or prejudiced territory.
March 14, 2017 at 19:43 #1292046Is there a highlights show on ITV at all tonight that will include the two non-ITV races from this afternoon?
I can’t see a highlights show on the tv listings. Pity Racing UK couldn’t have a highlight show of their own which is free to air for members & non-members alike
March 14, 2017 at 21:36 #1292082This is growing on me. Yes, there are still annoying technical glitches (like the parade for the Champion Hurdle and some clunky segues to pre-recorded pieces with Alice Plunkett), whilst the mid-race race reading comments from ex-jockeys are even more of an intrusion in races like the Supreme and the Champion, but there are also things that are way better than on C4. The JT McNamara piece was absolute class (and there is no doubt that these ‘shorts’ are a strong feature of the ITV product). More surprising was the wonderful extended interview with JP post the Champion (which I am sure must have been enabled by AP’s presence on the team). JP ‘interviews’ with C4 were always minimal; here, viewers were treated to a real portrait of the owner and the priceless tale of Mr Donovan. Be interesting to see what those viewing figures are.
March 14, 2017 at 21:50 #1292086I was optimistic after the first show, but am finding it bitty and sometimes amateurish and Mr Chamberlin is a clunky and uninspiring anchor. Matt Chapman’s schtick is mostly embarrassing and he seems like the poor kid at school who always wanted to run with the cool guys but was never accepted no matter how he tried (he seems to miss more links than any of the others – whose fault that is I don’t know). I see no benefit whatsoever in Lucy Verasamy.
The post-race analysis seems a bare and very hungry relative of the previous CH4 work imo. I know many see no point in it, but I like to have a close analysis of the key points in big races.
AP is trying hard now but his heart and soul leaves that paddock with the jockeys and that will always be so. JP was a revelation rhyming off all those dates of winners over the years. I quite like Mick (if he could stop using the word “really” his tongue would never wear out). Perhaps the best of them from the point of imparting knowledge is Luke who appears to be getting sidelined.
March 14, 2017 at 21:56 #1292089I wish they would drop the winning trainer/jockey is a genius bollocks. Or the winning jockey is the hardest worker in the weighing room and doesn’t get the rides he deserves. Or if those cliches have already been exhausted(which is often) the rider is the nicest bloke to ever be born in the history of mankind. There must be at least one who is a tosser.
But that is more of a gripe with racing coverage full stop, not just itv.
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