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  • #327118
    Avatar photoCav
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    Cheers for the feedback, Zamorston. I’ll get back to you later when I get a chance.

    #327123
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    people who say betting is for mugs are those who have no aspirations and lack of ambition etc. they want you to lose, but want your winnings, negativity plays a big part in this. if you win, keep your mouth shut!!

    but imo, if you dont have a betting plan, you will 99% of the time lost, like most punters. the hard luck stories of the last horse in your doubles and trebles losing is endless. if you haven’t read the stewart simpson book, you won’t have a cat in hells chance.

    #327134
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    Read Stewart Simpsons book many times just as valid today as ever it was IMO.

    #327156
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    And Punters are leaving Racing….all you have to look is the levy. People are now much more interested in betting on Human Being that 4 legged animals.

    Soccer Betting is huge now…Biggest growing market as the bookmakers keep telling us.

    I’m afraid that’s jumping from the frying pan into the fire. A survey of bookie’s opinions unequivocally identified football as their favourite betting medium for the punters to pursue.

    As the old villain, William Hill is alleged to have commented, "Never bet on anything that can think."

    This last World Cup was a classic instance of that truth. I think it was the biggest jamboree they’d ever had. Oddly enough, not long before it, out of the blue, I got a phone call from a charming lady at 888sport, asking me why I didn’t want to bet on the World Cup. When I quoted William Hill, she doubled up with laughter, I’m happy to say. I don’t even bet with them on the horses, as they don’t give Best Price.

    #327157
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    Read Stewart Simpsons book many times just as valid today as ever it was IMO.

    I am buying it this week Leither, any quotes you’d like to share from the book relevant to this topic please!?

    #327171
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    Does anyone have any stats on favorites winning Maiden races where it be flat/nh/bumpers

    compared to

    Favorite in Novice/condition events.

    I always seem to be decent at betting on novice races but can’t do anything but lose money on maiden races when i bet on them.

    I not a favorite backer per say but i thinking if i become a full fledged member of the bookmaker community(LAYER!!!!!!)

    I might do okay

    #327173
    leither
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    There is a lot of things in the book you may not agree with but one thing it is and that is a good read his visits to various courses and nights out at pubs are very amusing.

    #327177
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    I’m trying out laying horses in the lays and plays thread. I’m 17 points up, having tipped up 85 points worth of lays, doing this as a trial, but think its the way forward.

    #327297
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    If you can find anything useful in "Always Back Winners" you will surprise me!

    I've stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains
    I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highways
    #327400
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    I’d dispute that,Purwell.
    It’s ages since I read Stewart Simpson’s book, but it first introduced me to the concept that weight matters less on sharper courses, something few have taken on board, even today.

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    ‘Always Back Winners’ is nearly thirty years old now and, as a result, a lot of it is now out of date or irrelevant. A few decent bits of advice but mostly commonsense and if you’re looking for something that will set you on teh way to possessing an ‘edge’ this is unlikely to be it.

    Not wholly unentertaining though.

    #327437
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    I think it always needs stressing just how difficult the game is. The rules are constantly changing and it’s a bit like having to play a violin solo with a full orchestra at a packed Albert Hall while still learning the instrument. :?

    #327469
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    Off course its an old book now but i personally have thoroughly enjoyed reading it for time to time and have always found the concept of weights horses carry against one and other interesting.

    #327478
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    What a farce yesterday was

    Medermit Runs out
    Conditional disgraces himself by geting a horse beat
    No fav won at Naas
    No fav won at Bangor
    2 at Hunt
    1 at Kempton
    1 at Southwell…

    4 Favorites won after 30 odd races….what a shcoking day for backers.

    #327480
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    If only there were a rule in place which meant punters weren’t forced to back favourites…..

    #327483
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    Rory i understand what you mean but if the favorite is generally the horse with the best form n the race and yet only 4 can run to their form in 30 odd races its damning in its self of how hard its to seperate the chaff from the good un’s

    #327485
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    Can we be sure the favorite is the horse with the best form in the race?

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