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  • #70142
    irisgift1
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    weve got our options wide open;)

    #70145
    stevedvg
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    weve got our options wide open

    You sure do, pity none of them are good options…

    #70146
    Irish Stamp
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    Don’t think his jumping was appauling like I thought it would be, it’s definitely improving and will be better in 12 months time, whether he’s got the class for the Gold Cup though is debatable.

    #70147
    cheltboy
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    Glad he finished safe and well.  Ccouldn’t agree more, needs the V Williams regime. Then he could be very usefull.

    #70148
    LetsGetRacing
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    According to Meg’s postings on another forum, the general consensus of connections seems to be that Iris’s Gift ‘jumped really well’.

    A change in his career path doesn’t seem likely.

    #70149
    LetsGetRacing
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    But how much say do you think Jonjo really had?

    #70150
    jackane24
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    Yeah, it’s a typical example of owners just wanting more money out of their horse – so they send him chasing. Lester, is arguably, up there with that muppet Wilson who runs Astonville and Turnium in 3 major races in the space of 3 weeks.<br>The only difference, is that Lester has completely robbed us of a fantastic staying hurdler. Just imagine next year’s race!! MWDS, Golden Cross, BJK, Mighty Man, Nicanor, Inglis Drever – and Iris’s Gift. That race would be incredible.

    Apparently Jonjo and Lester are good friends, but even so, I think Jonjo’s emotion played tricks with him (a similar feat to Dawn Run, ie. best hurdler to best chaser), as well as more fame and fortune on Lester’s part.

    #70151
    stevedvg
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    Yeah, it’s a typical example of owners just wanting more money out of their horse

    I very much doubt it.

    I’d say that money had nothing to do with it and that it was a typical example of someone having a very good square peg and trying to fit it into a very illustrious round hole.

    The desire to win the gold cup, combined with ownership of a cheltenham festival champion created a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.

    And this clouded their eyes to the limitations of the horse.

    IG will be 10 next year, which is old for a winner of the stayers (Baracouda’s failed 3 times since he won it at 8yo, and he was a true great), so maybe he’d have been an unlikely winner of next year’s race, even if he had been kept to hurdles.

    So maybe this "option 5" is the one last roll of the dice to unluck some potential over fences that Jonjo’s failed to bring out?

    Steve

    #70152
    schumi
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    wouldn’t it be so easy to lose the run of yourself if you had such a great horse. i’m not defending it more trying to understand it

    #70153
    irisgift1
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    we are not money grabbing owners at all, far from it. <br>we just go by what jonjo and ap say.

    meg xx

    #70154
    Anonymous
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    Quote: from jackane24 on 4:41 am on Mar. 19, 2006[br]Yeah, it’s a typical example of owners just wanting more money out of their horse – so they send him chasing.

    <br>Bit harsh, that.

    Is there anyone on here who didn’t think that Iris’s Gift was a future Gold Cup horse in his hurdling days? The horse has the make of a chaser and I’m pretty sure that Jonjo and AP have felt that he would be even better over fences. Sadly, the horse simply doesn’t appear to possess the same level of ability after his injury; furthermore, his technique isn’t the best when it comes to clearing a fence.

    The decision to go chasing with Iris’s Gift was fully justified but simply hasn’t been vindicated by the horse’s performances; now it’s time to decide what to do next. if he were mine, I’d retire him as he owes nobody anything.

    #70155
    irisgift1
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    what a ridiculous idea

    #70156
    Anonymous
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    Quote: from irisgift1 on 11:21 am on Mar. 19, 2006[br]what a ridiculous idea

    <br>Fine- I’m just saying that it’s what I would do, were I in your position. The horse doesn’t appear to be as good as he was before his injury and it’s clear that he’ll never beat the best chasers, so why persevere with him?

    #70157
    irisgift1
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    because he is still a good horse, his injury hasn’t effected him at all.  

    #70158
    Anonymous
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    Quote: from irisgift1 on 11:28 am on Mar. 19, 2006[br]his injury hasn’t effected him at all.

    <br>Looking through the form book, I’d beg to differ.

    #70159
    Avatar photocaravan
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    give the horse a holiday and let it go out with the Hunt for twelve months.

    After the year , when it is that bit older , resume any chasing ideas they still have and lower their sights as to the quality of the opposition

    Allow the horse to "jump for fun" and maybe they can enjoy the moment in the future…..but certainly not at the highest level of jump racing

    #70160
    schumi
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    if he were mine, I’d retire him as he owes nobody anything.

    <br>maybe it might be an idea to give him a pop over hurdles before you shoot him yquem21?

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