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Many things may be construed as disappointing – one of them being constant self congratulation.
As for the race itself very much a triumph of style over content. The second has done nothing to suggest he is a Champion Hurdle winner, the third has always run below par at the track and the fourth wants a speed test. Yes, the Champion is his for the taking but hard to believe this was his best performance as Gary O’Brien suggested.
Well done Hurdy.
You’ve been having a lot of your short priced winners lately. That’s not a dig, some punters are good at identifying good favourites. Be fascinating to see if they add up in to profit.What about starting another thread on DLAP? Thumbs Up.
Slightly disappointing response that – the reason that I’ve began to frequent this forum is that people are fairly decent and there’s some fair analysis over here.
You’re a very shrewd man Ginger, but that sort of comment showed a lack of class.
What’s wrong?
Please read what I said again Bigger, this time do not presume there is any tongue in cheek at all in my words.
I’d genuinely like to see Hurdy put all his tips in a thread because he seems to have done well with them recently and I believe could add to the Daily Lays And Plays section.Imperial Call used to put a lot of short priced tips up there and did very well indeed with them. He was an excellent tipster but sadly no longer has the time to post. Hurdy could well take his place.
Value Is EverythingWell done Hurdy.
You’ve been having a lot of your short priced winners lately. That’s not a dig, some punters are good at identifying good favourites. Be fascinating to see if they add up in to profit.What about starting another thread on DLAP? Thumbs Up.
Slightly disappointing response that – the reason that I’ve began to frequent this forum is that people are fairly decent and there’s some fair analysis over here.
You’re a very shrewd man Ginger, but that sort of comment showed a lack of class.
What’s wrong?
Please read what I said again Bigger, this time do not presume there is any tongue in cheek at all in my words.
I’d genuinely like to see Hurdy put all his tips in a thread because he seems to have done well with them recently and I believe could add to the Daily Lays And Plays section.Imperial Call used to put a lot of short priced tips up there and did very well indeed with them. He was an excellent tipster but sadly no longer has the time to post. Hurdy could well take his place.
If that was your intention with the comment then fair play, I take back what I said.
Oh god, not again!?!?!
We can do without a 1.8 million bet on Canford Cliffs
Can we not forgive and forget? Everyone deserves another chance Zark.
Value Is EverythingIf that was your intention with the comment then fair play, I take back what I said.
It was Bigger, no problem, thanks, all forgotten.
Value Is EverythingHurricane Fly was impressive. Heavy ground does mean bigger winning distances. Doubt if Thousand Stars ran to form and certainly not Unaccompanied. Wouldn’t say it is his best performance, but it was an excellent reappearance and every indication is he’s as good as ever.
Value Is EverythingOh god, not again!?!?!
We can do without a 1.8 million bet on Canford Cliffs
Can we not forgive and forget? Everyone deserves another chance Zark.
My post, on the other hand, was tongue-in-cheek, Ginger.
Well done Hurdy.
You’ve been having a lot of your short priced winners lately. That’s not a dig, some punters are good at identifying good favourites. Be fascinating to see if they add up in to profit.What about starting another thread on DLAP? Thumbs Up.
Slightly disappointing response that – the reason that I’ve began to frequent this forum is that people are fairly decent and there’s some fair analysis over here.
You’re a very shrewd man Ginger, but that sort of comment showed a lack of class.
Very patronising but that’s just Ginger but what’s good for the goose is good for tha gander he’s my tuppenceworth.
Ginger loves to be on top so he cleverly forgets I put up Kauto Star for the Betfair and the King George and that Capatain Conan went off at 11 on Betfair. Then there was Sprinter Sacre who was a huge price a feww days before the race considering it was a 2 Was nice that he won exactly how I predicted he would. I try and identify winners and went for Fruity O’Rooney ew at the weekend cos I thought he had a great chance. Not my fault if a horse starts at 2/1 and I fancy him, price comes secondary to me.
I averaged 1.88 about a 1/4 shot today to me that is a huge price. In fact it’s massive because I just up the stake and win the same of him as I would a 4/1 shot. It was a only a short term loan to BF
Just looking at your thread Ginger I assume if you actually bet those selections for real 1pt can only be 1 pound. Because if it was 5 pounds or 10 pounds per point you’d never get laid in a million years. You may from the odd bookies but your bets are with some bookies I know would never lay you 400 or 500 quid at 7/1. If fact some wouldn’t give you 50 quid at 7/1.
From that I assume you have won around 1500 pound since when? Oct nov? whatever!
Lets just say I did better in 4 minutes than you have in 4 months :0) and leave it at that.
Overall if you add up all your stakes over that period you my friend are backing odds on.
Not knocking it, your winning and that’s fine but it’s a very hard if not an impossible way to make a living because the more successful you are the less chance you have of getting laid.
Bf is no better if you want on early as you seem to always do. When I backed Soldatino being the first bet struck with them I got less than 20 quid matched and to get 300 quid on it took me a week. The only way I could get a decent bet on the horse was through an Irish bookie I know. Even Sprinter Sacre at 10/1 was like pulling teeth and took 2 weeks before I got on what I wanted and again half of that was done for me. After he beat Peddlars they were even worse.
You’re system/method is great for a small punter until you start raising the stakes and then it becomes impossible. In the long term your dream of becoming a pro as I once told you before will be shattered. Even if you waited util the race and backed them on the machine there’s no guarantee you’ll get matched if backing in 100’s on long shots.
Depends what you want from betting a small yearly profit or a living wage. I still work………….sometimes
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Nice performance.
Interesting comments after the race from Mullins. Seems the drift was down to him not being entirely happy despite telling us on numerous occasions otherwise.
From watching Thousand Stars in the French Champion hurdle over 3m1f, I’m convinced he wants 3 miles. Oscars Wells is probably a 2 1/2 miles horse. I genuinely expected better from Unaccompanied but I won’t tear up my Zarkandar ticket…yet!
Hang on, sorry but why is everybody slagging off Ginger? I saw absolutely nothing wrong with what he wrote, he was just giving praise & recommending he start a L&P thread. I find it rather sad that people choose to read the comments sarcastically rather than by what is written down.
Really no need for the subsequent posts that followed, especially yours, Fist. All you had to do was say ‘they’re not always 5/6 shots, you know, Ginger
‘ and click on ‘submit’. You don’t have to list every single horse you’ve ever backed at a price above 5/2. We know you get big priced winners, everybody does. Ginger simply made the same observation I did the other week while we were arguing, that’s all.Even Sprinter Sacre at 10/1 was like pulling teeth and took 2 weeks before I got on what I wanted and again half of that was done for me.
BULLSHIT. BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT. Absolute liar.
You said to me the other day that you only converted over to the Sprinter Sacre camp after the 3rd fence at Doncaster. And I don’t think the race took longer than 2 weeks. He was best price 8/1 post-Doncaster.
Finally exposed. Nobody will believe a word you say anymore.
And there you are slagging off Ginger for betting 400 points or whatever when your old DL&P thread started by saying ‘I won’t bet more than 20,000 on a single bet’ or a similar amount and the very first bet was for 1000 or 2000. 18 pages later or whatever it was and you lost 1.8 million on Canford Cliffs in the Prix Morny.
So don’t you bloody dare slag Ginger off for how he bets.
https://theracingforum.co.uk/horse-r … &start=169
2nd last post to see all his famous quotes.
https://theracingforum.co.uk/horse-r … 13&t=75906
1000 Thai baht = £20
Well done Hurdy.
You’ve been having a lot of your short priced winners lately. That’s not a dig, some punters are good at identifying good favourites. Be fascinating to see if they add up in to profit.What about starting another thread on DLAP? Thumbs Up.
Very patronising but that’s just Ginger but what’s good for the goose is good for tha gander he’s my tuppenceworth.
Ginger loves to be on top so he cleverly forgets I put up Kauto Star for the Betfair and the King George and that Capatain Conan went off at 11 on Betfair. Then there was Sprinter Sacre who was a huge price a feww days before the race considering it was a 2 Was nice that he won exactly how I predicted he would. I try and identify winners and went for Fruity O’Rooney ew at the weekend cos I thought he had a great chance. Not my fault if a horse starts at 2/1 and I fancy him, price comes secondary to me.
I averaged 1.88 about a 1/4 shot today to me that is a huge price. In fact it’s massive because I just up the stake and win the same of him as I would a 4/1 shot. It was a only a short term loan to BF
Just looking at your thread Ginger I assume if you actually bet those selections for real 1pt can only be 1 pound. Because if it was 5 pounds or 10 pounds per point you’d never get laid in a million years. You may from the odd bookies but your bets are with some bookies I know would never lay you 400 or 500 quid at 7/1. If fact some wouldn’t give you 50 quid at 7/1.
From that I assume you have won around 1500 pound since when? Oct nov? whatever!
Lets just say I did better in 4 minutes than you have in 4 months :0) and leave it at that.
Overall if you add up all your stakes over that period you my friend are backing odds on.
Not knocking it, your winning and that’s fine but it’s a very hard if not an impossible way to make a living because the more successful you are the less chance you have of getting laid.
Bf is no better if you want on early as you seem to always do. When I backed Soldatino being the first bet struck with them I got less than 20 quid matched and to get 300 quid on it took me a week. The only way I could get a decent bet on the horse was through an Irish bookie I know. Even Sprinter Sacre at 10/1 was like pulling teeth and took 2 weeks before I got on what I wanted and again half of that was done for me. After he beat Peddlars they were even worse.
You’re system/method is great for a small punter until you start raising the stakes and then it becomes impossible. In the long term your dream of becoming a pro as I once told you before will be shattered. Even if you waited util the race and backed them on the machine there’s no guarantee you’ll get matched if backing in 100’s on long shots.
Depends what you want from betting a small yearly profit or a living wage. I still work………….sometimes
Jesus! Can’t even give someone a compliment without it being taken the wrong way these days. Had not intended to imply you back nothing but short priced horses Fist. Just the ones I’ve noticed recently suggests you’ve had a good record with short priced horses. I’m not criticising.
Bigger Bucks has withdrawn the comment you quoted Fist.
What do you expect me to do? Look at every tip everyone has, separating individual bets from these "Big Race Discussions", then remember how each bet did and add up every trfer’s profit/loss?… I’d be interested to see a thread of all your bets Fist (another compliment), which is why I suggested it.
If you don’t want to do so that’s fine. Would’ve thought you’d jump at the chance to prove yourself.
As for my bets. It is more than 1 pound per point, not that I should’ve had to say whether it is or isn’t, shouldn’t matter. Percentage profit on stakes is the thing to judge punters on. Deliberately use points because if anyone is following the thread, a point can mean whatever the follower can afford. A Point can mean 10p to a small gambler or £50 to a millionaire gambler. Don’t see why pounds are any better than writing points. After all, anyone can put a couple of Zero’s on to their actual £ stakes, to make them look like a heavy bettor. Not that I am accusing anyone of doing so. I personally find writing bets in anything else but points vulgar. What’s the point? Seems like the "look what I won" syndrome, but that’s just me.
I’ve already said am finding it difficult to get on at times. However, figures you give of bookmakers refusing bets at are just plain wrong.
Wish I hadn’t complmented you now Fist.
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