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Now the season’s been underway for a few weeks there’s plenty of lines of form to compare the established Hunters with the new Pointers coming through
This is a cut & paste from my other thread (Posted yesterday)
“Tomorrow’s Hunter chase looks between SESSION AND RESSION and STAR ROYAL, top Irish Point form Vs Top UK Point form, should be very informative”
Session And Ression was on the way to an easy win despite jumping badly to left when he unshipped his novice rider (softly) at the second last. He looksst” for The Cheltenham May meeting
Came out a tad in front by backing both but the wrong one won for my pocketDIVINE INTAVENTION looks nailed on EW at Ludlow tomorrow. Tissue 5/1
Double Mead doesn’t stay 3 miles, beaten in all races under rules at tomorrow’s trip
Oca Des Thaix just isn’t good enough, neither is his jockey
The lovely Welsh mare and multipule Point winner, Lady Myfanwy will struggle at this level but should make the frameThe rest can stay at home
Not a race for a big investment but the other Hunter Chase tomorrow (4.40 Taunton)looks as if it won’t take a lot of winning.
Here we have the often seen field of 11-Y-Old maidens, has beens and never going to bes that gives Hunter Chasing a bad name but the field does include one, FOYNES ISLAND, that has at least has beaten a couple of fair animals at this grade in The Baler and Louis Pasteur and is only a 6-Y-Old.
It’s usually best to go for the young improver in a field of oldies and at the tissue price of 6/1 he looks fair EW value.
Of the others Penny Doc is capable of better than she’s shown recently but whether she’ll show that is debatableInteresting selections there CS, I value your opinion.
On Sporting Life there is a ‘D’ next to Double Mead, suggesting he has won over 3m, but he clearly hasn’t as you quite rightly say. Does that include points? It shouldn’t on SP! Very misleading. Only positive for DM is his good form at Ludlow and goes on the ground, but I may go with your DI, clearly in good heart.
I’m not sure about the other Hunters, LR should be the one to beat, odds seem very short though!
In fairness to Double Mead, she has only raced at 3m once under rules (6l second) so to say she doesn’t stay based on a single run does seem a touch premature.
In fairness to Double Mead, she has only raced at 3m once under rules (6l second) so to say she doesn’t stay based on a single run does seem a touch premature.
But if her trainer has deliberately not chosen to run her over that distance in the majority of her runs, that would suggest to me that connections don’t think she’d stay that far. Just a thought.
Possibly, but to say "all" her runs when it is in fact only one is equally misleading. She appears to show her best form in March and is clearly in good heart. She may well struggle in a truly run 3m event, but is there any guarantee that it will be a truly run race.
Rich, I’m sure you are aware that your signature quotation is wrongly attributed, though the thought of Vincent Van Gogh as the coach of the Green Bay Packers did make me smile.
It is a famous quote by Vince Lombardi, head coach of the Green Bay Packers in the 1950s and 60s. The Superbowl Trophy is named after him.
Though argument says it was Red Saunders,a college coach, who coined the phrase.
I was under the impression that VVG said this first, then Henry Sanders, then Vince Lombardi copied him….
In fairness to Double Mead, she has only raced at 3m once under rules (6l second) so to say she doesn’t stay based on a single run does seem a touch premature.
But if her trainer has deliberately not chosen to run her over that distance in the majority of her runs, that would suggest to me that connections don’t think she’d stay that far. Just a thought.
Spot on Rich, excluding points she’s never won beyond 2m6f, and that was a truly dire race. She also won over 2m5f as a 7-Y-Old but IMO looked like a non stayer at Cheltenham in May and Mackenzie & Harris seem to have come to the same conclusion
Re the Taunton race, I watched the re-run Foyne’s Island beating of Louis Pasteur again this morning, he’s a horse I like and was well beaten, so I’ve had to have some of the 12/1 on offer
His jumping was OK for a 5-Y-Old making his Chasing debut that day but I do wish I knew something about his new trainer[quote="CheltenhamSpecialist
Re the Taunton race, I watched the re-run Foyne’s Island beating of Louis Pasteur again this morning, he’s a horse I like and was well beaten, so I’ve had to have some of the 12/1 on offer
His jumping was OK for a 5-Y-Old making his Chasing debut that day but I do wish I knew something about his new trainerRe Foyne’s Island. He has a 6lbs pull for the 6 lengths he finished behind Logans Run on their point a couple of weeks ago
Great ride by Mark Wall made it a stamina test, got the 10/3bog which was available until fairly near off time.
Foyne’s Island getting 4th in the three way dash for the places was a shame as I’d doubled them up EW with Foynes at 12/1Still, another profitable day, these Hunters really are do seem to provide a rich vein of profit across the season.
Only one Hunter Chase this weekend, at Kelso tomorrow, and it’s not of the highest grade nor one to invest in too heavily. All but two runners can be fairly easily dismissed which leaves the weak finisher, SPELLCHECKER and the 13-Y-O HARMONY BRIG. Depending on the odds available there should be a profit available here, even if it means covering the pair. Spellchecker has youth on his side, jumps well is very consistent, in fact he usually finishes second, so the stiff climb and long run-in at Kelso are hardly suitable. The distance too is his limit but I’m sure he’ll be there or thereabouts at the finish. While I’m usually loathe to recommend a veteran handicapper in a race like this, Vicki Dobbin seems to have given a new lease of life to the old fellow. His two runs in points since moving to her yard have resulted in a good second to the useful Hunter Chase Special Portrait followed by the narrow defeat of Monogram, another decent animal at this grade.
A big field line up for Catterick’s Hunter Chase today, with quite a few relative newcomers boasting recent form in points field. Of those, most have form lines in that sphere which suggest they are unlikely trouble the very consistent MONOGRAM. The ex Howard Johnston 8-Y-O not only holds most of his main challengers on flags form but is one of the few of these who has shown he can be just as effective over regulation fences and clearly looks the one to beat here and should be a fairly sound investment
Another 2nd but got the 100/30 EW to no major damage.
The Pawnbroker Hunter Chase at Leicester tomorrow is one of the most competitive Hunter Chases run so far this season with all eight runners having some sort of claim. That said
GALWAY JACK
looks a cast iron EW shot if all eight run and is a fairly confident selection to win the race. This highly rated pointer will be having his third run under rules, a bold front runner in points who jumps well, can sustain a relentless gallop and regularly sets best times of the day in points, his problem so far has for his jockey to get the pace right, too fast first time out, too slow on his last outing. In his early days in The UK he only just got home over 3miles in points but he’s settling better of late and now fully gets the trip. Now with top UK handler Gerald Bailey, when he raced in Ireland he beat such high class horses as Join Together (OR 156 and 7/1 for The RSA) and Minela Class (OR146 and 6th in last year’s Neptune). A repetition of either of these pieces of form would make him a certainty tomorrow. He has the beating of Rumbery Grey at the revised weights who just held on to beat him in a photo last time out.
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