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Don’t worry, the charlie on the train will sober them up for a couple of hours.
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There was a time when I’d have been making my way to then leafy Lingfield Park this evening.
But after last week’s scenes and witg tickets starting at £40 each, I wasn’t even declared at the 48-hour stage.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Not wishing this to be antagonistic TTC, but simply reading about foxhunting isn’t really understanding it.
Yes it’s a ‘sport’, but to many attending on horse back, the actual killing of a fox isn’t the main part of the day. However the socializing and galloping across farmers fields would be. There’s a lot more to fox hunting than cantering around the countryside and hopefully by chance come across a fox.
I get the impression that you are a little removed from country life and the negativity the fox can impose on it. Any lamb killed is a loss of revenue to the farmer and the wanton destruction to a hen house of poultry is an awful sight. The argument that they have to eat doesn’t carry, because they simply kill, not eat them.
Fox numbers have to be controlled in some way and if that doesn’t happen then more and more will migrate to the urban areas, where from what I see, they look a mangy lot eking out an existence, rather than the rather attractive healthy rural fox.
Over here pressures resulted in a stop to spring bear hunting, all that caused was an increase in the numbers, a natural (and predicted) widening of their habitat and now people complaining because bears are now moving into more urban areas and unlike a fox, these boys and girls can be very dangerous.
So, how would you suggest controlling the fox population TTC?
I live in a village in a very rural area, and I hardly ever see a fox. I don’t see why they need “controlling”.
As if stopping a load of hooray Henrys from larruping about tearing the odd fox to shreds is going to mean Blighty will be over-run by mangy, starving, zombie foxes FFS. And the foxes are worse off now they can’t (legally) be torn apart by hounds! Pull t’other one, its got bells on marra.
If the social event is not really about a fox, and a fox is rarely located, I fail to see what folk are whinging about this anti-cruelty law for.
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I have no great affection for foxes but it seems to me that in one breath Griff says fox hunting is a social event, it not about killing foxes, but then in the next he says foxes are pests and this is the way to control them.
He can’t have it both ways.
My solution – stage social events that don’t involve hunting sentient animals and keep formal legitimate pest control entirely separate.
That said, I’m holding a “Maim A Kitten & Wound A Puppy” party next week.
You’re all invited, bring your own weapons, but also please bring a bottle and food as, if we get raided, we need evidence to support our claim it’s primarily a social event.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"I live in a village in a very rural area, and I hardly ever see a fox.
Same here. I’ve seen more foxes in urban settings than rural.
You’re all invited, bring your own weapons, but also please bring a bottle and food as, if we get raided, we need evidence to support our claim it’s primarily a social event.
Damn, I was going to use the food as puppy bait before clubbing it with the bottle. Might need a rethink as destroying the evidence isn’t a good strategy.
TTC……..I don’t believe I mentioned how often a fox was actually caught, but it definitely not every time. The fact that you don’t often see a fox and the fact that their numbers need to be controlled is irrelevant. Again, how would you control the numbers?
Ian……..If you care to read again, I didn’t say that fox hunting was totally a social event for all, however it is for some/many.
For the record I am not pro hunting or anti hunting, but unlike many, do have first hand experience of hunting and the relationship with the fox in a countryside working environment.
Interesting question Tatling. How many foxes is the right number? If you are a poultry farmer, then the answer is presumably none, but if you are an arable farmer where creatures such as rabbits are your chief concern, then the answer is presumably lots.
Regardless of the answer though, it is madness in 2021 to have the sport of racing horses over jumps named after an entirely separate (not to mention illegal) activity!
I can just imagine Jack Sugden noticing a Fox has had a Hen away, and thinking “Damn and blast, if only Lord Snooty and the gang were still galavanting around Emmerdale the world wouldn’t be in this mess!”.
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I was just wondering TTC, if it’s more “Lord Snooty and the gang” that is the issue for you, rather than the fox?
Thanks for the reply, Griff.
I stand by my view that it is distasteful to combine pest control with social events – they should be two separate activities.
Btw, I don’t think any anti-hunting sentiment is due to so-called “Class envy,” but I do think a few hunting participants historically have given the impression they think they are part of some sort of elite to whom the law does not apply.
And that – not their wealth – is the bit that grates with the great unwashed like myself!
Interesting debate tbf.
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I was just wondering TTC, if it’s more “Lord Snooty and the gang” that is the issue for you, rather than the fox?
I think you’ve hit the nail on the head there. Some people have no idea about controlling the fox population, but just spout nonsense, like the usual nonsense spouters have proven here.
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Image thinking that fox population doesn’t need to be controlled because you hardly see one. Gave me a laugh, mind.
And what do have in factual evidence to prove that the fox population DOES require controlling Tank> Due to your comments, I assume you have much more than “a clue” about controlling the fox population”, so lets have it. I note both you and Griff have not answered that query as yet.
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Have you thought about researching it yourself? Plenty of info online.
I don’t need to. I’m not the one who wants to substantiate why an existing law should be amended. You are arse about face in the justifaction stakes marra.
At the moment the ‘pro’ arguement seems to be it was a great social event (irrelevant, dog fighting fans probably are of the same opinion), foxes kill chickens (who knew? Humans kill everything), and someone has seen a fox who looks unhealthy (irrelevant and unsubstantiated. No doubt being torn apart by hounds would improve his demeanour). LA Law it ain’t.
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