How much effort

[SwallowCottage]

It’s interesting to read how everybody has their own way of doing things. As with others, I concentrate on specific types of races. On average, I spend between 2-3 hours each morning studying the races for the day.

I bet on about 15 – 20 races per week which includes laying horses not to win or be placed. I do not bet on races at certain courses and I do not bet in races when I think there will be a slow pace. I do not bet in running because I’m useless at it.

Good luck to everybody on here with their punting.

Pete

[Drone]

Save for my reliance on Inglis Drever to pay the utility bills, I only bet in Chases.

The ideal scenario is a couple of single-figure handicaps a day contested by exposed sorts. Class is of no consequence as my records tell me I perform with much-of-a-muchness across the whole spectrum.

As I’ve long tried (and now succeeded) to treat form study and tissue compilation as a relaxing, enjoyable intellectual exercise to while away the long winter evenings I seem happy to spend longer unravelling a race now than when I was confronted by the prospect of delving into a handful or more of races: an hour or so per race would be the average which includes many a break for day-dreaming, sipping tea, blowing smoke-rings, peeking into TRF and singing along to the nth replay of ‘Sounds of the Sixties’ or ‘Smooth Classics at Seven’ depending on the mood-swing.

Having compiled my tissues I’ll then compare them with the RP forecast and look at the early moves on Betfair. If the race is high-profile and evening activity is brisk I may place a part-stake or leave an order overnight. Quite likely to be betting two or three overlays per race, particularly if I’ve identified a weak underlaid fav to bet against

This ritual is repeated in the morning, together with a perusal of the RP tipsters and early-bird bookies odds. A few hours welcome break out in the real world is followed by a return home to the racing channels, and ‘live’ market betting on Betfair.

Betting takes very much a back seat between June and October as I don’t bet on the Flat and only dabble in summer jumps. Though I still enjoy watching the top Flat action and spending some lazy, convivial afternoons on-course at York, Donny, Ripon, Pomfret and the like.

[Fist of Fury 2k8]

as a vague rule of thumb I’d like to come across a bet for every hour’s work, without forcing it.

This to me is the golden rule of racing "Come across them without forcing it"

I very seldom go hunting for winners and try and wait for them to come to me.

an example would be Binocular. I know several people backed him well before me for the Triumph and did well digging him out but I simply wouldn’t bet without seeing. If he runs again before the big one and he is evens or better I will have a maximum bet on him without even looking at another horses form.

I look out for horses like him then wait until they run next. Sometime they are unbackable but sometimes they can be great prices like Aigle DOr was the other day.

I also look out for horses with specific targets. Like Spotthedifference winning the race for the 4th time………you can more or less be guaranteed they are going to post 100% fit

Handicaps: Denman in the Hennessy is a rare type of bet for me. Put a normal handicap in front of me with normal horses and ask me to bet I would run a mile. Put a horse like him in Top Weight or not and I am in there like a shot be lucky if you get 2 in a season.

I like Novice Chasers much better even from the smaller yards. I find the good ones are very easy to spot and they can run up a sequence very quickly………Nevertika who looks destined to win a big one in the future and has been a great horse for me this season. Horse just oozes class and has been running against some real moderate animals and at surprisingly good odds..If he was trained by PN he would have been odds on in his last two runs.

That’s normally about me plus I love bet in the top race of the day on a Saturday but seldom bet unless I am mega confident. I will bottle out more times than I bet.

BUT we all have weaknesses and I have thrown all the rules I set myself out the window in the first time for 10 years………… Ante-post is like a new word to me and has been very costly so far this season.

I decided to back Kauto a fact that the whole world I’m sure is sick to the teeth of hearing about but unfortunately it didn’t stop there. He has already put me level by winning the King George and I should have just stopped there and then as far as AP is concerned.

Since I have joined this forum I have never stopped betting AP.So if it goes wrong you lot are to blame

I was checking my bets this morning and it’s like a who’s who directory

Kauto Star & Turpin Green/Sizing Europe & Katchit/ ..Noland, Binocular
Money Trix, Sweet Kiln, KALAHARI KING/Numide.

It has turned my best season in 5 years into what could be my worst season in 10 years and I still have to find the money to back Jonjo’s in the world hurdle. Next season I may take up knitting

[Gingertipster]

Sorry, this is a bit long and have put most of it up before but it does give an answer to the question.
I like to form my own mind on things before I look at Timeform but they do often coincide, no bad thing. Do not know how they had Desert Quest as joint top rated in the Boylesports Hurdle. However, when we do disagree they are just as often right.
I went to a West Berkshire Racing Club meeting where a speaker Andrew Gibson (2nd in RP search for a tipster) was saying about patterns and profiles of horses. Many horses are best fresh or on certain types of courses. I have been looking out for them this season. e.g. Sir Rembrandt is best fresh and goes particularly well at Cheltenham, 11.5/1. Not only horses but some trainers do well first time up too.
The rating is only the starting point, it might be top rated but how likely is it to run to that rating given the conditions? Is it out of form? Was there a good reason for it running below form last time? Can it improve? Above all, is it value?
Does the horse act on the going? With a horse’s record on a particular surface, if a horse has proven himself on the going there is no reason to look at anything else. Though going preferences can change after an injury and a round action horse is unlikely to take much racing on firm (even if he does “act on itâ€

Value Is Everything

[clivex]

Since Friday I’ve bet 432 horses

For what its worth i tend to stick to the "quality" races. Maybe if im going racing i will loosen up a bit but i very rarely back all the races on any one card

Probably around 12-20 bets a month for me

[% MAN]

For days I am going racing – i.e most days – I will spend three or four hours the evening before building my own racecard, during which I will check the form and running style of every runner.

Any runners that potentially catch my eye will be marked on the card, with one to three dots reflecting confidence.

I will then, generally, hold fire on any betting until I have seen the horse in both the pre-parade ring and parade ring – if I still like the horse, or if indeed another runner has caught my eye then I will play. The only ones I may back in advance are those in the notebook.

For meetings I am not going to I will check if any runners noted in my notebook are running and may back them.

[ricky lake]

For me its a bit easier , I play in running AW only , so i have 20 mins or so with the mute button firmly in place to study the runners in the following race , as I lay mostly , I do pay attention to significant market moves as its kinda crucial

I backed a horse yesterday in running for the first time in ages , yep it was Frankie on Blackcat , but thats the exception

very interesting to see the various approaches , me thinks some very clever operators post here

have fun

Ricky

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