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It’s totally boring, race after race on that straight track which they they tried to portray as a selling point. “The only straight floodlit all weather mile track in the world”.
An all weather track needs a bend, although invariably low class, the racing at Wolverhampton is far better as a televisual spectacle and the races are more exciting.
It’s an absolute travesty that Newcastle were allowed to rip up the turf track and that they got the okay from Nick Rust & Co to do it. Greed rules OK.
Catterick would have been a far better option and it would have made a cracking little all weather track imo.
It’s an absolute travesty that Newcastle were allowed to rip up the turf track and that they got the okay from Nick Rust & Co to do it. Greed rules OK.
Just about sums it up. The bookies and the average punter in the shops or online don’t give two hoots if the race is on turf or run around a bend; all they want is something upon which they can bet. Newcastle was clearly chosen over Catterick as there is a larger market in terms of potential racegoers but it was, as you state, the wrong decision.
YES YEATS TOTALLY AGREE. SO SO BORING. MUST ADMIT DONT HAVE ANY BET ON ANY ALL WEATHER TRACKS. THEY JUST REMIND ME OF THE OLD GREYHOUND FLAPPING TRACKS.
Racing has moved away from prioritising the spectacle for the horse racing fan and it’s all about revenue generation now.
This was sadly predictable, however with the fixture list expanding yet again next year, we can safely ignore the artificial stuff and concentrate on the turf action. Of the 1496 fixtures, AW accounts for 326 (21.7%).
I was seriously considering attending the last jumps meeting at Lingfield and the one this Tuesday, but I see they again have only five races on the card (ignoring the AW flat “race” that precedes it). No way I’m paying to only see 5 races, so let’s hope there’s six turf races on the 29th.
....and you've got to look a long way back for anything else.
Alas, flat racing at Newcastle has been going downhill for many years. The Group 2 Lennox Stakes run at Goodwood in July was originally run at Newcastle, replaced by a class 4 handicap I recall. The aw track just the latest insult to a once great track.
Seriously what the hell does it matter if they have sand under their feet or turf?
The continued AW bashing gets sillier and sillier.
60 racecourses and 5 are all weather plenty of chance to see a horse on grass it’s 2016 live in the present AW is as much a part of racing as turf.
Seriously what the hell does it matter if they have sand under their feet or turf?
The continued AW bashing gets sillier and sillier.
60 racecourses and 5 are all weather plenty of chance to see a horse on grass it’s 2016 live in the present AW is as much a part of racing as turf.
It’s not all weather bashing, it’s Newcastle all weather bashing, it just doesn’t work race after race, meeting after meeting on a straight track. It’s just so tedious and this is going to carry on for years, what a poor spectacle it is.
It’s already been stated that other all weather tracks like Wolves do a good job and I would have quite been looking forward to having one at Catterick but it just doesn’t work at Newcastle.
Seriously what the hell does it matter if they have sand under their feet or turf?
The continued AW bashing gets sillier and sillier.
60 racecourses and 5 are all weather plenty of chance to see a horse on grass it’s 2016 live in the present AW is as much a part of racing as turf.
It’s not all weather bashing, it’s Newcastle all weather bashing, it just doesn’t work race after race, meeting after meeting on a straight track. It’s just so tedious and this is going to carry on for years, what a poor spectacle it is.
It’s already been stated that other all weather tracks like Wolves do a good job and I would have quite been looking forward to having one at Catterick but it just doesn’t work at Newcastle.
Totally agreed.
Seriously what the hell does it matter if they have sand under their feet or turf?
The continued AW bashing gets sillier and sillier.
60 racecourses and 5 are all weather plenty of chance to see a horse on grass it’s 2016 live in the present AW is as much a part of racing as turf.
It’s not all weather bashing, it’s Newcastle all weather bashing, it just doesn’t work race after race, meeting after meeting on a straight track. It’s just so tedious and this is going to carry on for years, what a poor spectacle it is.
It’s already been stated that other all weather tracks like Wolves do a good job and I would have quite been looking forward to having one at Catterick but it just doesn’t work at Newcastle.
Totally agreed.
It works because the northern all weather jockeys wanted a track close to them and Newcastle was the only option as ARC don’t own any other tracks in northern england apart from Doncaster which is on common land and cannot be developed on and Sedgefield which I would assume would not be ideal for an AW track.
So they had no choice but to make it Newcastle or buy one of the other tracks if you don’t like Newcastle as an all weather don’t watch.
It works because the northern all weather jockeys wanted a track close to them and Newcastle was the only option as ARC don’t own any other tracks in northern england apart from Doncaster which is on common land and cannot be developed on and Sedgefield which I would assume would not be ideal for an AW track.
So they had no choice but to make it Newcastle or buy one of the other tracks if you don’t like Newcastle as an all weather don’t watch.
Of course northern jockeys like it, they will be very well paid if they get a few rides at most meetings, they don’t need to look at the bigger picture, a bit like you.
I see you neatly sidestepped the Catterick option but I wasn’t aware the Northern all weather track had to be an ARC track, when was this decided? Newcastle wasn’t the only option.
Can’t see the run of the mill meetings at Newcastle having big attendances after the novelty factor has worn off, especially if they charge for entry. What have the attendances been so far?
It works because the northern all weather jockeys wanted a track close to them and Newcastle was the only option as ARC don’t own any other tracks in northern england apart from Doncaster which is on common land and cannot be developed on and Sedgefield which I would assume would not be ideal for an AW track.
So they had no choice but to make it Newcastle or buy one of the other tracks if you don’t like Newcastle as an all weather don’t watch.
Of course northern jockeys like it, they will be very well paid if they get a few rides at most meetings, they don’t need to look at the bigger picture, a bit like you.
I see you neatly sidestepped the Catterick option but I wasn’t aware the Northern all weather track had to be an ARC track, when was this decided? Newcastle wasn’t the only option.
Can’t see the run of the mill meetings at Newcastle having big attendances after the novelty factor has worn off, especially if they charge for entry. What have the attendances been so far?
FFS Arena wanted an all weather track in the north they have three choices Doncaster, Newcastle or Sedgfield they don’t own Catterick so how can Arena build there? so I sidestepped nothing.
The pundits who want to see the proliferation of AW tracks appear to be the same people that need sectional times, the pre race weight of horses, know which way the tractor went on the course, which side it was on, whether it carrered 25.2 mph or 31, is there 0,034 dgree headwind, has the horse had a **** in the parade ring, on and on and on.
Nothing is ever good enough or right for them to have enough information. If they had everything they wanted it would still be not enough and there would be a new set of circumstances that ABSOLUTELY must be met or racing is FINISHED I tell’ya.
FFS Arena wanted an all weather track in the north they have three choices Doncaster, Newcastle or Sedgfield they don’t own Catterick so how can Arena build there? so I sidestepped nothing.
FFS, you still haven’t said why the northern all weather track had to be an ARC track and why ARC should always get what they want?
FFS Arena wanted an all weather track in the north they have three choices Doncaster, Newcastle or Sedgfield they don’t own Catterick so how can Arena build there? so I sidestepped nothing.
FFS, you still haven’t said why the northern all weather track had to be an ARC track and why ARC should always get what they want?
They own most of the aw, they are investing in AW Championships, they cannot compete with turf racing as Jockey Club own most of the major courses so to expand their business they are leading the way on the AW as it is the only way they can move forward in their racing business.
ARC built this to stop Catterick which would have been a major rival to them pure and simple, they are a business and their model is the AW.
Who cares about them expanding their business, when it goes against what the majority in the racing community want? Only ‘them’ is the answer. It’s just another great example of ‘business’ putting their need to expand and make money, over racing’s greater interests. More, more, more. More crap racing, more profit for ARC, more profit for book makers. Did I miss anything out? Long term, none of it is good for racing. It’s good for ‘them’.
Who cares about them expanding their business, when it goes against what the majority in the racing community want? Only ‘them’ is the answer. It’s just another great example of ‘business’ putting their need to expand and make money, over racing’s greater interests. More, more, more. More crap racing, more profit for ARC, more profit for book makers. Did I miss anything out? Long term, none of it is good for racing. It’s good for ‘them’.
And who is this majority in the racing community?
Who cares about them expanding their business, when it goes against what the majority in the racing community want? Only ‘them’ is the answer. It’s just another great example of ‘business’ putting their need to expand and make money, over racing’s greater interests. More, more, more. More crap racing, more profit for ARC, more profit for book makers. Did I miss anything out? Long term, none of it is good for racing. It’s good for ‘them’.
Do you think ARC are in the horse racing business not to make money? Do you think the 60 racecourses are there because it’s fun to watch horses race? of course not they are there to make money for their shareholders.
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