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Smooth please.
This topic raises it head every now and again, usually around Christmas, by one grinch or another.
Always found it quite weird not to mention sociopathic, how anyone would have a issue with people who share a common interest/passion coming together to discuss said passion, and interacting with each other in a more familiar way as they become more familiar with each other.
It’s what we do isn’t it? Being human and all that.
I’m too busy to have a handbags at ten paces pointless rant. I’m well up
for having a disagreement, with reasoned thinking behind it, and I think
that in the main that’s what we get here. So I’m for smooth, with the
occasional barb here and there
Smooth. I occasionally have a look at some of the other forums but this has the best analysis from people who love racing as well as betting. On one forum in particular (you know the one I mean) many posters are so full of mean spiritedness and ill will towards everyone: fellow posters, horses, jockeys, trainers and pundits. All served up with a sprinkling of bigotry and misogyny, with the pervading conviction that the whole game and everyone in it is bent. There is hardly any insightful debate and it’s not robust discussion or fun banter, it’s just miserable and makes you wonder why they bother.
Long live the TRF family
I humbly suggest that, on any or every internet forum, the ad hominem tactic should be studiously avoided, as per definition 1 of the link given hereunder.
This forum used to be like a horse that pulled hard and couldn’t settle. Now it has learned to lighten up and things are running much smoothly from what I now make of it.
I only pop in here occasionally and make the odd post because my Dad has gradually deteriorated with Dementia. He’s now bedridden, looks like a bag of bones and close to passing on. My life has been on hold for the last couple of years. Under these circumstances, it’s difficult to get involved.
Keep up the nice work and stay good folks
I empathise with you, Ghost. My Dad also has some form of dementia then a fortnight ago my Mum’s osteoporosis became chronic. I have been with them since, got organised and had the internet put on. Seems certain I will have to move to Wroughton permanently, not sure when I’ll be able to return to Maidenhead to oversee it.
Just as well I’d already abandoned form study and investment this season to make my Grand National website. Cooking roast dinner today, theoretically timed to be dished up between races at Leicester and Carlisle! Time only for a quick scan of racecards and pick one for fun. Still, Wroughton has its benefits – saw a couple of Alan King’s staff in the local Tesco last week!
Good luck.
This forum used to be like a horse that pulled hard and couldn’t settle. Now it has learned to lighten up and things are running much smoothly from what I now make of it.
I only pop in here occasionally and make the odd post because my Dad has gradually deteriorated with Dementia. He’s now bedridden, looks like a bag of bones and close to passing on. My life has been on hold for the last couple of years. Under these circumstances, it’s difficult to get involved.
Keep up the nice work and stay good folks
My grandmother got alzheimers at the age of 64, took her 20 years to get to the bag of bones stage. My thoughts are with you, Ghost and Golden Miller.
Value Is EverythingWhen I first joined the forum I mainly played the competitions and stayed out the discussions. I was just a kid really and didn’t feel like I had a place arguing the toss against people way above me on the power scale. The positive change from that era is that the forum now feels more welcoming to new members – I like to think pretty much all posts are acknowledged in one way or another and nobody feels like they are a little voice lost in the crowd.
On the flip side, I feel like the general level of the debates has fallen a little. The plus side of having great posters like thedarkknight, rory, davidjohnson, zorro, Irish Stamp, Grasshopper etc was that they were all secure in themselves and fairly civil in a debate. Nowadays there is far too much dickwaving with posters (one particular repeat offender) unable to make any sort of contribution without going onto some tangent about how they have 10/1 ante post about something now trading at 9/4…or how they once backed [horse in question] to win a race when another poster questioned their judgement. That sort of insufferable insecure egocentric behaviour would rightly have been slapped down in the old days and is now tolerated far too much.
Others have compared TRF against Twitter and the Betfair Forum. I suppose we fall somewhere between. This place thankfully doesn’t have the toxic element of BF but could do with the strict betting etiquette (betiquette?) of Twitter – honestly, aftertimers and egomaniacs are not tolerated on there.
I’m not sure where I’m going with this, but that’s my two cents anyway. It would be great if TRF could drag some of the former posters back from their Twitter exiles.
could do with the strict betting etiquette (betiquette?) of Twitter – honestly, aftertimers and egomaniacs are not tolerated on there
Oh I dunno, it depends on the poster. I miss TAPK- the chap for whom the
emoticon was surely invented 
And Raymo’s occasional proud aftertiming of Mrsraymo’s outrageously big priced winners is rather sweet (she would be horrified if she knew
).Smooth please.
This topic raises it head every now and again, usually around Christmas, by one grinch or another.
Always found it quite weird not to mention sociopathic, how anyone would have a issue with people who share a common interest/passion coming together to discuss said passion, and interacting with each other in a more familiar way as they become more familiar with each other.
It’s what we do isn’t it? Being human and all that.
Oh you should see it on the Ipswich Town forum Cav. It can be absolute mayhem on their at times.
I’ve only been on TRF a year but I have to say, I love it. It was also nice being welcomed in when I was a newbie by so many.
First post on here although I’ve followed a lot of the threads on here over the past 2 or 3 years.
My take on it is that most of the discussion on here is constructive and the fact it is generally civilised makes it interesting and informative and therefore one of, if not, the best around.
I’ve also looked at the other forums mentioned and agree with earlier comments about the vitriol vented against jockeys and trainers by losing punters which make you wonder why these people bother having a bet if the game is as bent as they seem to think!
posters like thedarkknight, rory, davidjohnson, zorro, Irish Stamp, Grasshopper etc was that they were all secure in themselves and fairly civil in a debate.
It would be great if TRF could drag some of the former posters back from their Twitter exiles.
Think Grasshopper would be thoroughly dischuffed with being described as “fairly civil in a debate”
I find it strange that the above mentioned have shuffled off to Twit Land, as they were notable for being capable wordsmiths who preferred to develop their arguments over paragraphs rather than in soundbite sentences. I’ve never subscribed to Twitter, admittedly, but from what little I’ve seen of it as a ‘guest’ it seems to be a place for frothy, inconsequential and often smart-arse one-liners
No disrespect to VTC, who certainly deserves to win Poster of the Year again, given the high standard of his diligent and voluminous work, but his successive wins are I think symptomatic of the way racing message boards have evolved: from discussion on the more nebulous mechanics of racing to Tips, Systems, Competitions and ‘who’s gonna win’ specific races viz Big Race Discussions and Daily Lays And Plays
Where it goes nobody knows: Usenet Newsgroups soared and crashed, and the nebulous mechanics have been done to death…
Agreed Drone, I’ve often thought it strange that some of those posters prefer to be constricted on Twitter now. I suppose it’s the way of the modern world though – these people are busy and it’s easier for them to bash out a quick tweet than construct a precise paragraph or two on here. Probably also the case that the high-rollers have no interest in arguing the toss with average Joe Punter on here and prefer to pick and choose who they interact with.
btw I think Grasshopper was good – a humble winner and gracious in defeat.
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