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Gleneagles being thrown out makes a mockery of racing.
I will never bet in France nor follow their racing again.
Law until themselves.
Philip Green had it right this week.Gotta be a Stewards Enquiry into
Treve
winning the Arc,blatant Non-trier all year!! No surprise to those who kept the faith mind as her victory last year was phenomenal.Well done her supporters.
I agree gord chuck Treve out and promote Flintshire on him 33s ew got something back could been more.btw am joking but happy with FLINTSHIRE
I must say I find the French rule refreshing.You interfere with another horse you are out of there.No giving the jockey the stick and the owner the apple.Excellent stewarding both days.
Incidentally I believe Joseph does not have the strength needed to guide a fully grown thoroughbred.Too emaciated.If Cirrus was the best horse today it must have been by about three grammes.
Yes. It was.
Mike
He caused four grammes worth of interference though Mike!
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Perhaps people should look at this. It gives better views of the incident than we have seen. It shows in real time, slow motion, side on, head on and rear.
What’s your take on it having watched all the angles Ken?
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Under our rules I don’t think he would have lost the race. I’m not sure the interference caused to the second cost it the race but I’m not sure that is the important bit. I think the key here is the horse that finished fifth. As I understand the French rules, if you cause interference that costs them a place you get placed behind it. It looked to me that the interference caused to the fifth cost it a higher placing therefore, under their rules, the decision was correct.
It’s quite an interesting debate about who’s rules are best and I’m not sure which I prefer. I think there is a lot of merit to theirs. While Cirrus Des Aigles looked the winner on merit, is it right that his actions caused another horse a place or two ?
A lot seem to be presuming that Cirrus was disqualified for his interference to Fractional as well as Planetaire but do we know this? Has anyone got the stewards report?
Of course we know that he was disqualified for the Planetaire interference but not the Fractional interference.
Overall the French & American rules leave a sour taste in the mouth while ours don’t. Sometimes in racing you are going to be unlucky in running and might not get a place you might otherwise have got, most people accept this, it’s horse racing after all.
Yeats..was this "Overall the French & American rules leave a sour taste in the mouth while ours don’t" the result of a scientifically conducted survey?
Yeats..was this "Overall the French & American rules leave a sour taste in the mouth while ours don’t" the result of a scientifically conducted survey?
Tend to agree. I think there have been plenty of times when our rules have left a sour taste in the mouth.
Yeats..was this "Overall the French & American rules leave a sour taste in the mouth while ours don’t" the result of a scientifically conducted survey?
No, I get a feel for these things with my experience and knowledge of the sport.
Far, far more sour tastes from American & French stewards enquiries than British ones.
Why? Have you done some scientific research on the subject yourself?
Yeats..was this "Overall the French & American rules leave a sour taste in the mouth while ours don’t" the result of a scientifically conducted survey?
No, I get a feel for these things with my experience and knowledge of the sport.
A lot, lot more sour tastes from American & French stewards enquiries than British ones.
Why? Have you done some scientific research on the subject yourself?
The problem with the British and Irish system is that the benefit of the doubt seems to go the party causing the infringement rather than to the affected party (Kate, E., Newmarket, 2013, and Windermere, L., Cheltenham, 2014). When the stakes are that high a win at all costs attitude takes over.
Yeats..was this "Overall the French & American rules leave a sour taste in the mouth while ours don’t" the result of a scientifically conducted survey?
No, I get a feel for these things with my experience and knowledge of the sport.
Far, far more sour tastes from American & French stewards enquiries than British ones.
Why? Have you done some scientific research on the subject yourself?
This is only true if you are the arbiter of what is a sour taste. What might leave a sour taste in your mouth might not leave one in other peoples and vice versa.
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