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Poor old Cirrus. Runs his heart out and comes off a straight line in the shadow of the post. The Stewards don’t just demote him to 2nd. Oh no that’s far too lenient. "ERRRRR Je pense il devrait etre 5eme!!!!"
"this perfect mix of poetry and destruction, this glory of rhythm, power and majesty: the undisputed champion of the world!!!"
So pleased we don’t have such petty stewards in this country. Cirrus didn’t do anything wrong apart from moving off a straight line crazy decision
Taking him down to 2nd seemed correct, but fifth feels completely arbitrary. Any French racing aficionados who know the exact letter of the law that led to this?
The French rules dictate that if a horse interferes with another, it is then placed behind that horse. Cirrus Des Aigles did not just interfere with Fractional, but also the fifth placed horse, Planetaire. The stewards therefore had no option but to place Cirrus fifth.
I think there’s a lot to be said for the French rules. In Ireland and England we don’t know what the stewards might do on any given day of the week but the way the rules are in France makes the stewards’ job simple. There are occasions when the best horse gets thrown out but how often have we seen jockeys allowing their horses to roll into/across others over here yet are allowed to keep the race.
It would have been great to see Cirrus Des Aigles win a fourth Prix Dollar but I would question Soumillon’s decision to switch his whip to his right hand before I’d question the stewards.
I think the decision was correct on this occasion.
If you watch the video below, which shows the head on of the closing stages, you will see that the jockey on the fav switches the whip to the "incorrect" hand for the situation. Cirrus then comes across quite sharply and cuts the other horse up.
OK it was quite late in the race but the fav was under pressure and there wasn’t much in hand at the end. It was all a bit desperate and I think the interference helped him to win.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Br_wFrziscA
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Yes but 5th!!!!???? 5th!!!!!!!!?????????????? Zut alors!!!!!
"this perfect mix of poetry and destruction, this glory of rhythm, power and majesty: the undisputed champion of the world!!!"
Its pretty harsh and i feel a little sorry for connections but I admire the fact that they have rules and they enforce them.
The British system is morally bankrupt. As long as they think your the best horse, you can pretty much barge your way to the front. Then you get bizarre stuff like the Dolatulo affair.
SHL
This nonsense only confirms that the British system is comfortably the best, especially for punters.
Cirrus was the best horse today. In Britain, you’d have been paid out.
Mike
..I also prefer the British system, this just totally ruined what was a great finish, and besides, the French are not always so rigid….otherwise Dylan Thomas wouldn’t have kept the Arc would he…and took them 30 minutes to reach the decision…
I’m surprised there’s been very little made of the fact Soumillon switched his whip to his right hand. If Joseph O’Brien had done the same there’d be all sorts of excitement on here.
This nonsense only confirms that the British system is comfortably the best, especially for punters.
Cirrus was the best horse today. In Britain, you’d have been paid out.
Mike
Nonsense indeed….
In golf, if you come back with too many clubs. You get disqualified and nobody complains. Doesn’t matter that you won by 20 strokes and the extra club was lidl pitch and putt device.
In motorsport, a dodgy bit of kit or incorrect car weight and you get thrown out…somebody usually complains but not many. Does it matter how far they win usually.
A jockey weights in without some lead. Does it matter that he has won by half the track?
We could go on and on……
Sports have rules and even under British rules, he probably should have been disqualified today.
SHL
This nonsense only confirms that the British system is comfortably the best, especially for punters.
Cirrus was the best horse today. In Britain, you’d have been paid out.
Mike
If Cirrus was the best horse today it must have been by about three grammes. His jockey was flailing like a madman late on and switched the whip in a move of panic. After he gets the whip into the right (wrong) hand he gives a few desperate smacks in quick succession, clearly not giving his mount time to respond between hits, and more or less lunging over the line with little or no regard for anything else.
I prefer the British system because it prevents the farcical disqualifications we used to see but I think that race today would have been a puzzler for the British Stewards as well, being, for my money worse than the Elusive Kate/ Sky Lantern affair that got a lot of knickers into a twist last season.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
If Cirrus was the best horse today it must have been by about three grammes.
Yes. It was.
Mike
Perhaps people should look at this. It gives better views of the incident than we have seen. It shows in real time, slow motion, side on, head on and rear.
I would give up betting if our stewards were like the French.
Gleneagles
was clearly the best horse in the race there.All this folowing lanes is a load of Bollox,it just doesn’t happen in Horseracing.
If Gleneagles touched Full Mast at all it looked like it was just on the post and couldn’t have affected the result for me…….the 2nd and 3rd horses bumped each other aswell.
We Are slightly hampered a beaten horse when making his move…..The French have to introduce the question of whether interference affects the result before they start chucking winners out otherwise it will be a farce.
Cirrus drifting on to the 2nd horse could be reasonably judged to have affected the result and therefore deserved the elbow.
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