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Special props to New Approach as a Derby horse who retained and improved his form throughout the season, with a small injury hiccup in between – and honestly could have challenged Zarkava based on his Champion Stakes performance.
Considering the linkage between all five leading candidates (Z, DoM, HN, RP and NA) from the early season Classics to the Arc – it has been a season in a million.
Should have been around when Mill Reef and Brigadier Gerard ran in the same season.
You would have been the happiest chappy in the world.
Zarkhava is possibly the best filly i have seen and i voted for her, but frnakly on a rethink, it should be Ravens, not least for the fact that he performed at top level over such a period and produced his very best at the last
Tough one,
Yeats is the best stayer for some time, hang on, what about Septimus?
Very close with the others.
Henry was a very good miler but did not really improve. Hyped up (as usual) by O’Brien.
Always been a great fan of Raven’s Pass, backed him ante-post for the 2000 immediately after the Solario. Did not have a great start of the season. Connections at pains to settle him and gave Henrythenavigator too much of a start until September. Gradualy got closer to Henry before getting his head in front of one better than an average 2000 winner in the QE11. Then there was that sensational Breeders Cup Classic win, never been done before. The different surface though made it a bit easier than for Sakhee or Giants Causeway.
New Approach should get Jim Bolger the training performance of the year. Keeping a tricky customer on the go all season. Won a good Derby and then improved in the Champion. Any normal year he would’ve got the vote.
One of my favourites Duke Of Marmalade had a marvellous first half of the year. Then it tailed off a bit. Won a lot of good races but his form was imo a touch below the others.
Zarkava was an outstanding unbeaten filly. Only ran against the colts once when blowing them away in the Arc. However DOM was below form by then. She was exceptional against her own sex though with a fabulous turn of foot.
My vote is between Raven’s Pass and Zarkava. Because her form was all season long, am going against my favourite horse and pocket, and have gone for the French filly.
Mark
Value Is EverythingBit of a principle thing with me really. I loved Zarkava in the Arc and New approach in the Derby and subsequently (voted Jim Bolger trainer of the year and agree with Paul’s comment about him being in the villain of the year – just being honestwas all he was doing)
Yeats for me simply because he is n aoustanding stayer who epitomises the hard as nails tough member of the Throughbred breed. Just wish they had sent him jumping. I know it will be sacrilege to some, but what a fine staying chaser he would make. Mind you I look at a lot of flat racers like that.
Yeats for me simply because he is n aoustanding stayer who epitomises the hard as nails tough member of the Throughbred breed. Just wish they had sent him jumping. I know it will be sacrilege to some, but what a fine staying chaser he would make. Mind you I look at a lot of flat racers like that.
Heh-heh, don’t stop looking!
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Yeats, which I admit is slightly sentimental, as I love stayers and horses which are around for a few years and keep doing it,season in, season out.
Between Yeats and Zarkava for me, and I’ve gone for sentiment – Yeats for his six years of giving great thrills and pleasure to us.
This is the TRF Awards 2008.
That is 2008, where is the award for "of the last six years"?
People are voting for horses in categories that do not exist!
Making up their own award.Can I vote for Henry Cecil in the best flat trainer 2008 category please?
Not for his 2008 record but for the last 30 years.These are the 2008 awards, people should not take in to account anything that has happened in any other year. In my opinion it makes a mockery of the awards.
May be we should have an award for best contribution of the last 5 years.
Inglis Drever
Yeats
Duke Of Marmalade
Sir Michael Stoute
Aiden O’Brien
Our VicSee what I mean.
Mark
Value Is EverythingYeats for me, to win a 3rd gold cup was a great achievment and it could be years till it could happen again….
(and Zarkava wasnt bad either
)This is the TRF Awards 2008.
That is 2008, where is the award for "of the last six years"?
People are voting for horses in categories that do not exist!
Making up their own award.Can I vote for Henry Cecil in the best flat trainer 2008 category please?
Not for his 2008 record but for the last 30 years.These are the 2008 awards, people should not take in to account anything that has happened in any other year. In my opinion it makes a mockery of the awards.
May be we should have an award for best contribution of the last 5 years.
Inglis Drever
Yeats
Duke Of Marmalade
Sir Michael Stoute
Aiden O’Brien
Our VicSee what I mean.
Mark
Yes and everyone can vote for whoever they like – we live in a democracy. I prefer stayers to other horses, so I voted for Yeats. I prefer hurdlers to chasers, so I voted for Inglis Drever.
Love,
Your reasons are fair enough, if you like stayers and hurdlers that’s fine. I am not saying people should not vote for Yeats or Inglis Drever. I am all for democracy. As long as they are not voting for them because of their record in 2007, 2006 or 2005. This is after all the award for 2008.
Mark
Value Is EverythingWhat a silly statement Ginge
Anyone with half a brain would obviously know anyone voting for Yeats or Ingis Drever would naturally be influenced by the fact they have been doing it for years……..However they both deserve votes for 2008 as they had excellent seasons, Yeats in particualr winning 4 out of 4.
I would love you to tell the forum how do you separate the past and present in someone mind……..hit them with a hammer until amnesia sets in?
Do you ever think before posting?
What a silly statement Ginge
Anyone with half a brain would obviously know anyone voting for Yeats or Ingis Drever would naturally be influenced by the fact they have been doing it for years……..However they both deserve votes for 2008 as they had excellent seasons, Yeats in particualr winning 4 out of 4.
I would love you to tell the forum how do you separate the past and present in someone mind……..hit them with a hammer until amnesia sets in?
Do you ever think before posting?
Wasn’t Yeats beaten in France?
Do you think before posting?Like I said Fist, if people think they deserve a vote for what they have done in 2008 that is no problem.
Everyone knows how they come to their own conclusion, we should just think to ourselves "is it a valid reason for voting". I am not for a ban of any sought.
Mark
Value Is EverythingTo be honest I only knew from glancing at a website he had won in France but did check here http://horses.sportinglife.com/Horse_Pr … 64,00.html
before I postedI guess I shouldhave checked with the RacingPost instead……..don’t change what I said Ginge you can’t prevent people for being a bit biased and considering overall form…..it’s simply there and you can’t just block it out your head.
Zarkava wins this division hands down because 1 1/12 mile races are the Heavyweight Division of racing……not because she was anymore dominant than Yeats or Inglis Drever were…..but because people naturally like to be associated with the best of any sport and Derby winners and Tha Arc De Triumph winners etc have a head start in votes like this
Zarkava wins because she deserves to win full stop.
Does not matter what distance, indeed Zarkava won over a number of distances. You say she got votes because it is the classic distance yet some have chosen a horse because it is a stayer.
Some of us do not need to look these things up Fist, we just know.
Any forumites fancy entering a team quizz at Newbury Racecourse?
Taking on the likes of the Racing Post, Wetherbys, Raceform, trainers etc?
Mark
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