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Homecoming Queen gave us all a ‘Frankelesque’ moment today, which set us wondering whether AOB had this tactic planned all along for her. Was there today and watching the race pan out you could see the rest of the field bunched behind her happy to be given a nice lead and then suddenly she took off like a machine and you knew from 2f out she wasn’t for catching. Brilliant performance and catching the eye again as she did in the Nell Gywnn was Starscope who I was pleased to have backed at 33’s, one for the notebook.
Let’s not forget those horses had to hang around for at least 30 minutes on a cold rainy day, whilst the poor ill fated Gray Pearl was helped out of her awful predicament. It was a bitter sweet result but well done to Homecoming Queen for an outstanding performance.
Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...Astounding performance from a seemingly exposed horse that you couldn’t pick on form and who was ridden in the style of a pacemaker and campaigned up until now as if they were hitting and hoping with her as if she was only going to have a short career (as you would with a half sister to Dylan Thomas
) …..would have been very nice to know that she had improved so much at home.Equally head scratching is the fact that Dettori completed a unique Guineas double of last place in both races and Godolphin managed to get 2 previously unbeaten fillies into last and second last in the 1000.
Racing makes fools of everyone at times.
A terrific win by HQ no doubt, however I think it might be a bit early to be heralding this filly as a truly great horse. The fillies are all over the place. It must be the coldest spring I can recall. Half of them probably still carrying wool. There’s no doubt the local fillies are backwards yet. Added to that we had a completely bizarre start to the race with the horses having time to cool down and perhaps for their performances to be affected I think it entirely possible that the form will be turned on its head before the seasons close.
Forgot to add that she had ground there that you would never expect at Newmarket in the spring. It’s like a bog here at the moment comparatively speaking. It may also be that she revelled particularly in the soft conditions.
The point I’m trying to make is that there were a number of anomalies that you wouldn’t expect from a ‘normal’ Guineas.
I guess time will tell if she’s genuinely the world beater that she potentially looked yesterday.
Extraordinary performance, the way she accelerated again into dip was stunning, this after having blazed the trail from the start.
I’ve just checked her form, her first six runs last year were really average.
She reminds me of Peeping Fawn, once she started improving she became unstoppable.I thought last year that they had her wrong. She must have been showing so much speed on the gallops they presumed she was a sprinter, but she was only ever going to show her worth over further.
I loved Peeping Fawn.
Extraordinary performance, the way she accelerated again into dip was stunning, this after having blazed the trail from the start.
I’ve just checked her form, her first six runs last year were really average.
She reminds me of Peeping Fawn, once she started improving she became unstoppable.I thought last year that they had her wrong. She must have been showing so much speed on the gallops they presumed she was a sprinter, but she was only ever going to show her worth over further.
I loved Peeping Fawn.
Clearly clueless those Coolmore muppets – perhaps you should apply for a position as racing advisor as you make it sound so simple. Fact is the horse had stepped up in trip and last time out scrambled home by a neck. Yesterday she produced a performance that should have surprised everyone outside the inner sanctum. The problem for punters being that Coolmore were quite happy to see a 25/1 shot ruthlessly exploit the frailties of a short-priced favourite.
I am not even sure Peeping Fawn ran as a two-year-old and then won a succession of races in a row – comparisons are a little premature.
I don’t expect to be spoon fed by trainers when it comes to the chances of their horses winning, but given that John Gosden was very open about his two [which is probably why La Fuge, who I really fancied, drifted before the race] so it was no surprise to see his other runner doing so well. Maybe I’m still smarting over the fact that I backed Treasure Beach in the Arc. I, too loved Peeping Fawn. Has she bred anything of note, I wonder?
The problem for punters being that Coolmore were quite happy to see a 25/1 shot ruthlessly exploit the frailties of a short-priced favourite.
What a ridiculous comment.
She (the winner) exposed the frailties of the entire field. Homecoming Queen had, by the sound of it, been performing well on the gallops. Maybe lost nothing in defeat really, there’ll be other days for her you’d have to think. She (Maybe) ran a fine race yesterday whatever happens in the future, I’m sure they were delighted with her.
Horses are not machines, every one of them performs variably on almost every run. Soft/hard ground, stepping up/down in trip, different course characteristics, riding tactics, physical development. These and a multitude of other factors create that variation. Without it racing would be predictable and useless as a betting medium.
I’d treat the form with caution, because the ground is unlikely to be replicated through the season and the winner did have a bit of an easy lead really. But, that said, if she went to the Curragh and it was easy ground it’d be a brave man that’d take her on after that. Not one to bet on, but not one to bet against either for now, for me.
I backed Homecoming Queen and what I know about flat form could be written on the back of a stirrup iron . . . but I liked the name
A cracking run in a fast time considering the going was changed to soft during the afternoon. Faster than Camelot who is supposed to be a superstar.
Where’s Blues Brother with his speed ratings for the two guineas races?
Hi all…..
not Blues brother…..but I rated HQ at 142 and the first 4 were Group 2 at least
HQ had won a few races and in particular on soft ground
Camelot just under Group 1st 122….these are my ratings which differ from may others….
I had Starscope as the winner on my ratings…..unlucky
will be interesting to see HQ in soft ground next time
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Extraordinary performance, the way she accelerated again into dip was stunning, this after having blazed the trail from the start.
I’ve just checked her form, her first six runs last year were really average.
She reminds me of Peeping Fawn, once she started improving she became unstoppable.I thought last year that they had her wrong. She must have been showing so much speed on the gallops they presumed she was a sprinter, but she was only ever going to show her worth over further.
I loved Peeping Fawn.
Clearly clueless those Coolmore muppets – perhaps you should apply for a position as racing advisor as you make it sound so simple.
I am not even sure Peeping Fawn ran as a two-year-old and then won a succession of races in a row – comparisons are a little premature.
I think you need to go and have a lie down or a weekend at a spa. Relax.
Didn’t say they were muppets but trainers get horses wrong all the time, as they admit themselves.Peeping Fawn did not tun at two but as a three year old was running over a mile in lower grade races, ran a stormer when upped in trip by half a mile for the Oaks ( not the stables first string ) and didn’t lose a race after. Becoming a star when previously thought of as a lesser light.
Comparisons are relevant if you don’t have a chip on your shoulderThe problem for punters being that Coolmore were quite happy to see a 25/1 shot ruthlessly exploit the frailties of a short-priced favourite.
What a ridiculous comment.
She (the winner) exposed the frailties of the entire field. Homecoming Queen had, by the sound of it, been performing well on the gallops. Maybe lost nothing in defeat really, there’ll be other days for her you’d have to think. She (Maybe) ran a fine race yesterday whatever happens in the future, I’m sure they were delighted with her.
If my comment is ridiculous words don’t adequately exist to describe yours. You may as well just stick two fingers up at all punters. Been performing well on the gallops, lost nothing in defeat, connections delighted – just a string of cliches – are you the scriptwriter for Aidan O’Brien? At least try to write something original.
The bottom line is Coolmore didn’t care whether they won with a 25/1 or a 13/8 shot – in fact they did everything possible to ensure the 13/8 favourite lost. If you are happy with that fine that’s your opinion. The only thing Maybe didn’t lose yesterday was value because effectively she didn’t have any to begin with. Can you imagine Coolmore being happy if Camelot had been trounced by a 25/1 outsider from the same stable – it just wouldn’t happen.
I think you need to go and have a lie down or a weekend at a spa. Relax.
Didn’t say they were muppets but trainers get horses wrong all the time, as they admit themselves.Peeping Fawn did not tun at two but as a three year old was running over a mile in lower grade races, ran a stormer when upped in trip by half a mile for the Oaks ( not the stables first string ) and didn’t lose a race after. Becoming a star when previously thought of as a lesser light.
Comparisons are relevant if you don’t have a chip on your shoulderYour after timing explanation was just a little too simplistic for a horse suddenly finding a massive improvement and at this stage however you want to dress it up there is no comparison between Homecoming Queen and Peeping Fawn. If I have a chip on my shoulder you appear to have a chip shop on yours.
A perfect example of a TRF thread starting as an innocent expression of appreciation of a great win in a classic which quickly turned into a knocking of the winner and the form/race before falling into a name calling argument.
Can you imagine Coolmore being happy if Camelot had been trounced by a 25/1 outsider from the same stable – it just wouldn’t happen.
And St Nicholas Abbey, stallion prospect that he is, is turned over by a 66/1 shot from the same stable, right on cue. It DOES happen!!
They aren’t machines Stilvi, and even the peerless AOB can’t always predict what’s going to happen on the racecourse.
in fact they did everything possible to ensure the 13/8 favourite lost
Another completely daft comment. Do you really, honestly think they set out yesterday to get Maybe beat? I’d suggest they went in there with two good horses and that they thought both had a good chance. I’m sure they would have been equally delighted had Maybe won.
) …..would have been very nice to know that she had improved so much at home.
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