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(Smash) But tastes disgusting IMO
: Great advert in the 80’s though or was it 70.s with all those laughing aliens. It was both, Crizzy!
And here’s one of the most famous ads of the whole campaign – may also have been the first (it certainly hails from the time before Cadbury’s offloaded the brand);
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0YF_oNyQXE
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Grayson, ‘For mash gat smash’ I say ‘For mash get potaoes’
Even if I can’t get it down myself 
Or alternatively, prepare them this way;
http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/Potato/
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Grayson, where do you find this stuff??!!
I am actually thinking of trying some real mash with butter, cream, black pepper etc to see if I can stomach it again!!Anyone just seen this on C4?
Made for interesting viewing.
Didn’t think a vast amount about Hugh Fernley-Whittingstall before but warmed to him due to his attitude to the experiment itself.
It will be interesting to see how people react to someone making an experiment of the two options of food production as opposed to someone just yelling about animal cruelty a lot and generally kicking up.
Wondered what other forumites thought about the show and the whole issue of animal welfare in food production as it’s been made so much more public in recent days.
Whilst seeing both sides of the argument I do agree with Zome who I was just chatting to on MSN who said that people quite simply seem to have lost the plot when it comes to their relationship with food, be that their physical natural nutritional needs as well as their complete lack of understanding of the process of how food ends up on their plate.
This was highlighted by a woman my family knew not long ago reacting to news that one of our hens had hatched a batch of chicks when we didn’t need any more by saying "but surely you knew your hen was pregnant?!" in genuine shock.
Dear me….
I didn’t watch the programme but see it’s on again tonight so might catch up with it. Wouldn’t normally bother with Hugh F-W, his River Cottage wasn’t for me. However I like what he’s doing here and good to see Jamie Oliver, who’s fast becoming a favourite of mine, speaking up about it too, it’s long overdue I think.
I stopped buying cheap chicken a long time ago. I never buy chicken takeaways or any chicken ready meal unless it’s made with organic meat, or at least free range, that’s the only chicken I ever buy personally, for some years now. A little quality meat now and again, properly reared and slaughtered. I refuse to eat Halal which is why I steer clear of New Zealand lamb.
Same with eggs, but I can afford to and with no children to feed I can spend the time thinking about it. Busy families strapped for cash and time might not be so inclined.
So, at least I’m doing my bit
Did anyone see that ‘Jamie’s Fowl Dinners’ last night on C4. I’ve never seen anything more sick and disgusting than what the producers (or whoever decision it was) to do what they did.
They were talking about how the male chicks of egg producing chickens get destroyed and the ways they do it. Then went on to actually killing about 8 little chicks in this glass cage. It was so out of order to do that on TV, not even so long after the watershed at 9, so god knows how many children have seen it. They then were going on to demonstrate how they get rid of them and were about to give them to a snake…. I mean what point is it trying to make?! Apparently it happens with every type of egg, free range etc etc so not like we can boycott it.
Anyway i switched off after that so don’t know how bad it got afterwards.I don’t think it’s great entertainment showing what they did. Did anyone else watch it??
We are subjected to a torrent of brain-numbing food progs on TV
It’s about time one actually looked at what goes on ‘behind the scenes’ in order to satisfy our demand for obscene amounts of cheap animal protein.
The truth is rarely pleasant.
I’m with Drone on the whole, I think the reaction of some of the crowd would be fairly typical of the masses. I particularly liked when he went to the ‘thoroughly modern’ young woman’s house, where like a good girl she stocked only free range eggs and chicken in her fridge. He then went on to point out that just about every other egg-containing product she owned was battery farmed!
The girl’s reaction: "I just didn’t think".
And that is precisely the problem.All that being said, the python really was a bit needless, wasn’t he?
I think it was a very good prog. The sad reality is that he actually gave us the truth about these birds. The only way to educate the masses is to show this stuff on TV. The python bit was just making a point I suppose which I don’t mind. I personally can’t afford the free range option (apart from eggs) but I always but a free range bird If I do a roast. That’s me doing my bit but I know it’s not enough.
It’s definitely high time that someone pointed out these things instead of just letting people go along ignorantly.
I’m as guilty as the next person. Day to day life takes priority and it’s easy to not think about these things, not because of willful ignorance but because of lack of time and other priorities.
Personally whilst it was uncomfortable viewing, I’m glad I watched both shows and the truth was portrayed as it happens. It’s made me reconsider my shopping and cooking habits and I hope that’s true of a lot of other people.
Now if something could be done about the state of fast food in this country, that would be brilliant too. Sadly despite the furore caused by Morgan Spurlock’s ‘Supersize Me’ when it first came out only resulted in the companies in question offering a highly calorific salad option I believe, and that momentum seems to have been lost already. That didn’t even touch on animal welfare – I hope the efforts of Jamie and Hugh have a more lasting effect from these shows and make people consider things further too.
As for the python bit, at least it’s proof that the chicks do not go to waste after being killed.
Ref the python bit- these male chicks were of egg laying breed and were destined to die young anyhow, in exactly the same fashion. what difference does it make if it was on tv or not, or if they get fed to a python or turned into dog food afterwards. At least on tv we get to see what really happens.
The series of programs have definitely given me a bit more insight into how we treat chickens, food for thought so to speak, even though i thought previously that i had a healthy and grown up view on food production. Education on this subject can be nothing but good.
Just to clear things up, I had no problem with the python per sé. My puzzlement was because Jamie Oliver had just asked what happens to the chicks, and his guest had answered “the zoo for reptile food, pet food etc.”.
Fine, I’ve pictured that, bad news for those little chicks, now move on to the next bit. It didn’t seem like it was warranted, or indeed even in the natural progression of things, for Mr Oliver to then go “What? You mean like this?” and duly produce a whopping great python!
I just thought it came awfully close to blowing the cover of a programme where thinly-veiled shock tactics were always going to be the order of the day (for want of a better phrase
)!I grow weary of Mr Fearnley Whittingstall’s face, his weasly little voice and his tediously middle-class hobby horses. Equally I have had enough of Jamie Oliver’s career prolonging stoking of middle class anxieties. It is bad enough being lectured by politicians, but I absolutely refuse to be nagged by a cook, any more than I would take career advice from a plumber or marriage counselling from a binman.
Enough with the cooks already, haven’t they got restaurants to work in?
You eat animal products, somewhere along the line, an animal has suffered. Life for animals reared for food is usually nasty, brutish and short. You don’t like it, go vegetarian. But please spare us the ‘humane’ nonsense. We live in huge societies of millions of people, all of whom need to be fed and most of whom don’t have access to a few acres in Dorset. If you want to live in a different century or a different country, there are plenty to choose from (I believe Afghanistan is pretty this time of year, Mr Fearnley Whittingstall).
This will be big news for a week or two until the goldfish-like middle class attention span finds something else to be neurotic about. Meanwhile, the ‘masses’ continue to feed their children chicken nuggets and fish fingers, without said children dropping dead on the spot.
I’m aware that much of our food is mass produced, that chickens these days don’t taste like real chickens and though it is mildly irritating that I may never taste a proper chicken, it isn’t very high on my list of worries. If it makes you feel better, by all means spend three hours a day trawling the local markets for food that is entirely and in every respect ethically spotless. Meanwhile, the rest of us have jobs and families to feed.
As the old saying goes, ‘Too many cooks……on television’.
By the way I was first alerted to this programme by the title. Great, I thought, after all that reality guff, they are finally giving people what they want. Hugh Fearnley Whittingstall dressed up like a chicken, being pursued by wild dogs across the English countryside.
A chance to make television history completely wasted.
: Great advert in the 80’s though or was it 70.s with all those laughing aliens. 
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