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I had money running onto Bobs Worth from Silviniaco Conti last week. I opened the morning paper to see the double whammy of Robin Goodfellow tipping him up and a William Hill advert with 11/2 Bobs Worth splashed across the top of it. Thankfully, horses can’t read and I hope Billy Hill was carved up.
Bobs is generally favourite for the Gold Cup now at best priced 5/1 and it grieves me that he wont be in the King George on Boxing Day. It was interesting that Barry Geraghty stated after the race that too much was being made of the left-handed track bias with Bobs Worth, as he felt it was just coincidental that the horse wasn’t quite right when below his best going right-handed.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
not convinced that kempton is really his track. I know he won there before but looked a little out of his comfort zone last year in the feltham.
goes to cheltenham with every chance, although the gold cup is looking like a hot race, with silviano conti, sir des champs etc
you know bobs worth will stay, he wasn’t travelling the best at certain points today but he plugged on, and when really gets going is very hard to stop.
Anyone who has backed Bobs Worth for the Gold Cup should be quite happy to see him avoid Kempton. His forte is stamina not speed. Kept fresh for March at present he is clearly the one to beat. I suspect they will just be looking to give him a prep at Newbury.
Excellent performance x 1st 3 home. Bobsworth now added to Al Ferof and S conti as evidence of how good last years novices were. F Lieutenant not dismissed either as he seems to improve significanly in spring. Need further statements for Sir Des Champs, Last Instalmnet and Flemenstar and we could have the best GC for many years.
Happy with that, couldnt see anything beating him and they didnt.
Being realistic however, all Bobs Worth has proven today is that he’s marginally better than Tidal bay, recieving 6lbs and all that. 5/1 for the Gold Cup looks quite skinny to me on the back of this race, although a big well done to those who took 20/1 for the Hennessey, Gold cup double.I was right. Well, sort of. Shame LNB didn’t do better, nut it might do him good in the long term.
Bob’s Worth should now run in the King George…so all of us who haven’t backed him antepost for the GC can watch the price go out when he sucks right-handed!
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Happy with that, couldnt see anything beating him and they didnt.
Being realistic however, all Bobs Worth has proven today is that he’s marginally better than Tidal bay, recieving 6lbs and all that. 5/1 for the Gold Cup looks quite skinny to me on the back of this race, although a big well done to those who took 20/1 for the Hennessey, Gold cup double.Being realistic all he has shown is that he can win what is acknowledged as one of the most competitive handicaps of the season under a big weight in what for him was pretty smooth style. There was little doubt (barring accidents) he was going to win from some way out because he is such a strong stayer. Despite his age an on-song Tidal Bay is a more than useful yardstick. You can pick holes in most single figure quotes as said horse has got to turn up but at the moment he has far less to prove than all his expected competitors.
Although he was comfortably the best horse in the race, was a super cool ride from Barry Geraghty, seriously good. Happy with The Package running on for the place money. Think he will turn up at Cheltenham in March for one of the handicaps and run very well.
Happy with that, couldnt see anything beating him and they didnt.
Being realistic however, all Bobs Worth has proven today is that he’s marginally better than Tidal bay, recieving 6lbs and all that. 5/1 for the Gold Cup looks quite skinny to me on the back of this race, although a big well done to those who took 20/1 for the Hennessey, Gold cup double.Being realistic all he has shown is that he can win what is acknowledged as one of the most competitive handicaps of the season under a big weight in what for him was pretty smooth style. There was little doubt (barring accidents) he was going to win from some way out because he is such a strong stayer. Despite his age an on-song Tidal Bay is a more than useful yardstick. You can pick holes in most single figure quotes as said horse has got to turn up but at the moment he has far less to prove than all his expected competitors.
Wasn’t really picking holes in Bobs Worth in particular, but more how the bookmakers make him a 5/1 favourite for the Gold Cup, should be 10/1 the field or thereabouts. Tidal Bay ran a cracking race, probably his best ever considering giving weight all round (makes you wonder what might have been if Paul Nicholls had got his hands on him sooner). Looking at the race before hand I thought apart from Bobs Worth and First Lieutenant, there wasn’t a lot worth backing and so it proved. To me, as good as Bobs Worth was on saturday, all he’s really proved is what he proved in march, so why should his price for the Gold cup almost halve? Like I said, I’m not trying to de-value one of the best handicaps of the season, just don’t understand the reaction of the bookmakers sometimes.
Tiday Bay was fantastic, on level weights he’d have had Bob’s Worth. Love the old boy.
Happy with that, couldnt see anything beating him and they didnt.
Being realistic however, all Bobs Worth has proven today is that he’s marginally better than Tidal bay, recieving 6lbs and all that. 5/1 for the Gold Cup looks quite skinny to me on the back of this race, although a big well done to those who took 20/1 for the Hennessey, Gold cup double.Being realistic all he has shown is that he can win what is acknowledged as one of the most competitive handicaps of the season under a big weight in what for him was pretty smooth style. There was little doubt (barring accidents) he was going to win from some way out because he is such a strong stayer. Despite his age an on-song Tidal Bay is a more than useful yardstick. You can pick holes in most single figure quotes as said horse has got to turn up but at the moment he has far less to prove than all his expected competitors.
Wasn’t really picking holes in Bobs Worth in particular, but more how the bookmakers make him a 5/1 favourite for the Gold Cup, should be 10/1 the field or thereabouts. Tidal Bay ran a cracking race, probably his best ever considering giving weight all round (makes you wonder what might have been if Paul Nicholls had got his hands on him sooner). Looking at the race before hand I thought apart from Bobs Worth and First Lieutenant, there wasn’t a lot worth backing and so it proved. To me, as good as Bobs Worth was on saturday, all he’s really proved is what he proved in march, so why should his price for the Gold cup almost halve? Like I said, I’m not trying to de-value one of the best handicaps of the season, just don’t understand the reaction of the bookmakers sometimes.
I don’t see how you can go 10-1 the field. if that was the case bookies would get raped year after year. there are some horses that are just better than others. if theres a lot of dross in the hennessy, which you seem to be suggesting, why isn’t there the same in the gold cup? I’d be amazed if there were 10 horses capable of winning the gold cup this year. more like 3 or four.
silviano conti, bobs worth and silviano conti have already shown that they are exceptional chasers, a cut above your normal gold cup contender, and I don’t think you’d last long as a bookie if you priced everything up at 10-1 for the gold cup.
bobs worth is an exceptional horse. have a look at his races- not only does he ooze class, but his stride seems to go at an incredibly rapid rate when he gets into top gear- it’s almost like watching a flat horse.
sure on form you could argue that he’s only just proved that he’s slightly better than tidal bay. but in reality he’s got a vastly better chance than that horse of winning the gold cup- we know everything there is to know about the nicholls horse, but thats hardly the case with bobs worth. we haven’t seen the best of him yet.
Tiday Bay was fantastic,
on level weights he’d have had Bob’s Worth
. Love the old boy.
Nah.
Okay, 10/1 the field might be exaggerating a bit but 7/2 Bobs Worth with Paddy Power, generally 4’s now? Come off it.
There are many horses this year that at this stage would seem to have more than a chance. Al Ferof, Cue Card, Silviniaco Conti, The Giant Bolster, Long Run, Bobs Worth are the obvious ones. Then you have Flemenstar, Sir des Champs, Grands Crus(providing wind op sorts his problems out), Last Instalment, Weapons Amnesty….
Okay there’s an argument that some of those mentioned wont stay, but making Bobs worth a short favourite this far out when it would seem there is so much talent around this year seems a bit daft. To me the best performance so far this year would be Silviniaco Conti beating Long Run in the Betfair and yet he’s twice the price. Anyway, this is the Hennessey thread so apologies.I couldn’t see cue card or al ferof staying the gold cup distance in a horse box. ditto flemenstar. long run has gone backwards, that much is clear now, and the grands crus bubble has well and truly burst.
agree 3-1 7-2 is very short but I can’t see how you can make him longer than 5-1.
the hennessy is a very good trial as proved in recent years by denman. the fact its run over quite an extended distance on winter ground is a good guide for the gold cup, as for both races you need serious reserves of stamina.
bobs worth is no denman certainly, but denman was a shorter price for the gold cup than bobs after his hennessy win, and the henderson horse doesn’t have a kauto star in his prime to contend with.
I agree with you that if his price gets stupidly short he then becomes a lay, but he win’s the hennessy then it’s only natural that the bookies are going to shorten his price, what are going to do instead, push him out?
I was rather of the opinion the Hennessey wasn’t much of a pointer in terms of Gold Cup credentials, Denman being the exception in recent years. He was a truley exceptional racehorse tho. What I have noticed about the Hennessey is that the winner is generally talked up into being the new kid on the block so to speak (Diamond Harry, Trabolgan etc)…
And while you say that no way could the bookies push Bobs Worth out (and rightly so), I dont see any reason to push him in either other than he’s shown that he’s still the same horse he was in march. Why wasn’t he 7/2 after winning the RSA, what did he prove saturday he didn’t prove then??? Ok he took on older horses for the first time but apart from Tidal Bay who gave him best part of half a stone and only got beat 3 lengths, they were all handicappers.
Anyway, I rambled on enough about this, we’ll know more about what’s what after the King George, which to my mind is a far greater pointer as to what might happen in march.
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