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- September 10, 2007 at 16:17 #114349
On the contrary, it’s probably THE most important indicator of SOCIO-economic strength
You must be joking
For a start CEO salaries totalled, are a tiny fraction of the economy, but its nuts to say that that ratio is more relevant than GDP
Footballers and dare i say, many jockeys earn way more than the average worker
and not just in the supposedly evil anglo/american economy….
are you saying that Fallons salary should be ratioed to that of the stable staff?. Or Aiden oBriens?
For my money, a CEO responsible for the running of a company with thosuands of people is somewhat more deserving than some kick and run merchant
September 10, 2007 at 16:23 #114351Yet under Labour, REAL LABOUR, their media myrmidons had the lying gall to claim that we were looked upon as the Sick Man of Europe
LOL
We were…no doubt about it. Britain was an economic and social basket case in the 70’s
The country was completly devoid of enterprise and confidence.
Maybe CEO’s werent earning so much but hey…thats fine because its nothing compared with the 30% inflation, dying industries, endless strikes, zero growth, etc etc etc
September 10, 2007 at 16:33 #114355Most of them would be conmen without conscience, and eminently expendable.
They threaten to leave the county? Fine, give them a free one-way ticket anywhere they want. But they leave most of their ill-gotten gains here for the Exchequer.
As for sportsmen, I’m always denouncing the vile hypocrisy of the media who are always stirring the **** about footballer’s salaries (historically, working-class provenance, you see), while receiving obscene salaries themselves for their quisling peddling of heir paymaster’s politics.
And as for jockey’s, the same applies with bells on. They risk life and limb every day and support a large industry upon which many depend and many, many more derive great enjoyment.
The people were all much better off with high inflation, or didn’t you notice?
However, there’s some truth in your point about the endless strikes, though our lying media’s constant championing of management, instead of the workers doubtless contributed to the bloody-mindedness. It was class war in the end, and the rich won. Without their duplicity, the right wing would never have regained power. Except that the politicians of the Left and their activists simply envy them, rather than deplore them, and thus become overtly corrupt.So, in the end, there is no political solution without a spiritual rebirth of the country, because all worldly-wise people have an essentially rapacious, right-wing mindset, indeed the Socialists claim to think it’s necessary for everyone to be equally wealthy, when the reality is that the poorer more spiritual folk, the less worldly-wise, are more that content with a relatively small disposable income, such as they had in the sixties, and the dignity and stress-free life it afforded them.
In the end, the mess we are in is a failure of the institutional Christian churches.
Captains of industy receive golden parachutes when they leave a company they’ve driven into the dirt, leaving a host of already grossly underpaid employees, jobless. Regularly.
The right-wingers we’ve had misruling us these last 27 years have sold almost all the flagship companies this contry ever had, and not just in manufacturing industry either! Yet they continue to shamelessly wrap themsleves in the flag. I look forward keenly to the sale of the London Stock Exchange! What poetic justice that would be.
In the US it’s worse. "When fascism comes", Sinclair Lewis is alleged to have said, "it will come wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."And indeed their evenagelical "fundies" have actively supported Bush and the far right; where here, the churches have kept a low political profile and are merely seen as irrelevant.
The far right also regularly lead our countries to war and economic ruin. Then a left-wing government has to pick up the pieces, build up the country again and wait for its welfare state beneficiaries to see themselves as toffs, and then as beggars-on-horseback, vote back a right wing government that cons them left, right and centre.
September 10, 2007 at 16:39 #114357The right-wingers we’ve had misruling us these last 27 years have sold almost all the flagship companies this contry ever had, and not just in manufacturing industry either
Yes i remember all those "flagship" companies that were sold.
September 10, 2007 at 16:43 #114358And as for jockey’s, the same applies with bells on. They risk life and limb every day and support a large industry upon which many depend and many, many more derive great enjoyment.
So you think that some half wit, alcoholic, anti social, midget that is not even the main player in what is a marginal sport is far more worthy of huge rewards than the CEO given the responsibilty of say, guiding the fortunes of Vodaphone?
September 10, 2007 at 16:47 #114360What has this got to do with overwatering again?
September 10, 2007 at 16:47 #114361Clivex/Grimes
What does any of that have to do with Haydock’s ground?
September 10, 2007 at 17:13 #114363And as for jockey’s, the same applies with bells on. They risk life and limb every day and support a large industry upon which many depend and many, many more derive great enjoyment.
So you think that some half wit, alcoholic, anti social, midget that is not even the main player in what is a marginal sport is far more worthy of huge rewards than the CEO given the responsibilty of say, guiding the fortunes of Vodaphone?
A.B.S.O.L.U.T.E.Y.! Except I think that ridiculing anyone on the grounds of their physical stature is indicative of sloppy, even loutish thinking. You do yourself a disservice, not jockeys.
And where do you get the idea that racing is a marginal industry? It’s news to me.
Anyway, that’s my twopennorth now, as people are getting jacked off with our arguments.
September 10, 2007 at 17:14 #114364like to think i’m articulate
September 10, 2007 at 17:15 #114366as people are getting jacked off with our arguments
I dunno
maybe its….jacking off to them
September 10, 2007 at 18:03 #114368Anyone who thinks that because Sheikh Hamdan is rich, we should not worry too much about his opinion, is missing a critical point. Where I come from, you don’t upset your best customers. They tend to go elsewhere
The team paid £17,500 to Haydock Racecourse on the assurance they wouldn’t overwater. They didn’t ask the racecourse not to water; just not to overwater.
So Haydock overwatered. Rich or not, I’d have been livid at the outcome. And I’d want my money back.
Let’s not forget that racing in the UK needs the Maktoums far more than they need us. It’s hard not to notice that the Maktoum family are busy building up a larger presence at all levels in the States, a racing infrastructure which doesn’t have the worrying plethora of problems we have. And where an average racehorse can recoup a higher proportion of their expenses.
September 12, 2007 at 22:02 #114663Anyboday who hasn’t already listened to Barney Curley’s weekly sermons on Youtube must, after this and other recent debacles!
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