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"These days I’d say that I’m as much a horse trader as I am a gambler," Findlay said. "When you make a mistake gambling, it can be pretty fatal, but when you make a mistake buying a horse, you can try again."
"There’s always the chance that you’ll hit the jackpot too, but I look at it in the same way that I look at gambling. If you survive, you’re doing well, and that’s all I’m looking to do, survive and then do it again next year."
Very must the gist of what Fred Winter reportedly told Charlie Brooks, when a then a young Charlie began his pupilage under the guidance of the great man at Uplands near 25 years ago. If my memory serves me correct, Fred Winter, in his usual forthright style, imparted the following advice to his eager to learn pupil.
By the time all the bills are paid, the best a trainer can hope for is to break-even from fees charged to owners. Where a trainer can make his ‘extras’ is by either good old-fashioned horse trading or by punting or a bit of both. The advantage of buying and selling horses is you don’t have to deal with bookmakers. While the problem with punting is that the owners you attract can be a right pain in the backside seeing as patience is generally not their strongest suite.
As a further illustration of Fred Winter’s legendary abruptness, “Don’t you dare make a bollocks of the weigh-in” were the first words that greeted Charlie Brooks as he dismounted from Observe after unexpectedly winning the Foxhunters’ Chase at the 1987 Cheltenham Festival. To this day, Charlie Brooks can’t remember if Fred Winter did ever get round to congratulating him on his most successful ever ride.
Punters continue to get mugged and the stewards turn a blind eye to it,every so often they will pull in a small time trainer or middle of the road jockey and do them for non triers.
There are certain ”darlings” of the racing game that get away with murder.
Punters continue to get mugged and the stewards turn a blind eye to it,every so often they will pull in a small time trainer or middle of the road jockey and do them for non triers.
There are certain ”darlings” of the racing game that get away with murder.
Like Sir Michael Stoute with Florimund?
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Like Sir Michael Stoute with Florimund?That run in a Windsor maiden gave him an official rating of 88 Rory!
And his mark was left unchanged after winning his maiden by 7 lengths at Lingfield then presumably?
And his mark was left unchanged after winning his maiden by 7 lengths at Lingfield then presumably?
He was a huge dissapointment of a horse,no wonder Sir Michael got rid of him! That was his only victory!
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Yurituni out at Doncaster tomorrow – I’ll be interested to see how he runs.
The catalogue for the Newmarket Horses in Training sale includes a consignment of forty three horses from the Findlay/Boom partnership.
AP
Do you really need to pay for the catalogue for that sale now AP? seems a bit of a diabolical liberty to me. I know the online version is free but they’re looking for £15 for the printed one on their website.
Carv,
I just download the online version and use that. It’s always struck me as odd that the sales companies charge for catalogues – bit like a restaurant asking £15 for a copy of their menu.
Tattersalls catalogues are stuck in the dark ages anyway – Doncaster list the last three races under each code and the current handicap marks for horses in training.
AP
They don’t charge here- they give them out like confetti at a wedding!
Agree about the usefulness of same- a lot of trawling through racingpost ahead I fear…"Jumping out alertly" said Richard Hoiles of Yurituni today. Didnt happen the last 2 runs where the same horse and jockey attracted official formbook comments of
hld up in rr
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stdd s
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The gamble came unstuck today with the
Sangster
horse being collared close home.
Justice of sorts, imo.
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The only time Yurituni was backed recently – Yarmouth, five runs ago – was the only time he wasn’t either held up or said to have ‘lost its place’ by half-way. Knocked in to 5/2 from 8/1 – went as short as 2/1 at one stage – today and was always close enough (though I will concede that it’s difficult not to race prominently in such a small field).
Unlucky Harry.
A race that sums up the sad state of the game. Warned off associates left, right and centre carrying on as normal.
Was the morning fav dope tested? It’s run was reminiscent of Bravefoot.
A depressing race on a depressing day for British racing – there have been some racetime markets today that have had to be seen to be believed. Some of the goings on at Newton Abbot in particular were quite astonishing…..
Are the BHA still bothering to look into such contests – or has everyone now just accepted it is a free-for-all?
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