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Ok so I backed Bond Fastrac, call it pocket talk if you really feel the need.
Findlays horse, hands and heels first time out, persisted with over a patently too short 5f second time up and never spotted 2 Mondays ago on its final run before handicap mark assessment. Beaten a combined 19 lengths over sprint distances on its first 3 runs.
Meanwhile the owners of Bond Fastrac campaign their horse honestly and he wins his maiden impressively (imo) at Ripon on his second run.
Result – The honest connections have to concede 18lbs to the "improver" who hasn’t tried a yard until today imo and get done on the line. They must be gutted, I wouldn’t blame them.
Pull the other one Harry…Gambler my ar*e.
Boy are you way off the mark with Bond Fastrac I remember his first run well.
Go back to that race and tell me that horse did his best.
He came out of the stalls and was dropped in at the back. His jockey sat motionless and barely out of a canter and was still hacking when the approached the final bend. While all those in front of him were hard at work because they were trying to get into a possie to attack the leaders from.he never made any effort until they were round the bend and gone. He was then ridden and pushed out hands and heels passing all the stragglers.
They never stopped the horse they game him a very nice quite run but tested the water when all chance had gone.
It was so blatant I spotted it at the time but failed to capitalise on it when he won next time out because the fav was so short and gave it a miss. He won at 16/1 but that isn’t to say the owner never had a tough… a grand or 2 in the right places never shows up and for all you know the owner had a good pay day.
Looking at the betting HF hasn’t had much on his either and the money in the right was mainly EW on the day.
Minor gambles both, if at all, and happens every day.
Going for big touches on horses at that level in those size of fields is a dodgy game at best and not HF’s style
From todays Guardian
<i>Flat racing, though, is now beginning to rival the winter game in his affections, while buying and selling horses is also an increasingly important part of his racing interests. “These days I’d say that I’m as much a horse trader as I am a gambler,” Findlay said. “When you make a mistake gambling, it can be pretty fatal, but when you make a mistake buying a horse, you can try again.
“There’s always the chance that you’ll hit the jackpot too, but I look at it in the same way that I look at gambling. If you survive, you’re doing well, and that’s all I’m looking to do, survive and then do it again next year.”</i>
Rumour has it AND I STRESS rumour, Bloom refused to give him a bridging loan after a particulalry bad spell for Findlay with his gambling, investing it in Brighton & Hove instead. Today’s developments reported in The Guardian would tie in with that.
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Has “The Dog” had his day?
There’s an article on page 2 of today’s Racing Post regarding the partnership coming to an end with the majority of the horses going to the sales.
There’s an article on page 2 of today’s Racing Post regarding the partnership coming to an end with the majority of the horses going to the sales.
This has been a while coming to be honest.
It has looked a very strange set up to this outsider looking in. Findlay’s quotes today confirm other reports that I’ve read that Bloom doesn’t seem to have much interest in racing at all. Yet he’s got horses with virtually every Tom. John and Gary.
Has Harry found out that stable info isn’t the gold mine he was hpoing?
It has looked a very strange set up to this outsider looking in. Findlay’s quotes today confirm other reports that I’ve read that Bloom doesn’t seem to have much interest in racing at all. Yet he’s got horses with virtually every Tom. John and Gary.
Has Harry found out that stable info isn’t the gold mine he was hpoing?
I don’t think this represents a move away from punting by Harry, but it makes sense that he should, like any good businessman, be exploring other revenue streams. It must be said that he probably doesn’t have the betting clout he had about two years ago, after a run of publicly poor results, but that’s hardly an unfamilar scenario.
Bloom is definitely much more hands on with this new venture and has taken a keen interest in the horses, appointing one of his company directors to oversee the operation. It’s true that his previous ownership foray left him cold, although that’s allegedly due to him trying to land a gamble with one of his horses (at Brighton naturally) by backing it from 20/1 to 9/4 favourite only to discover that his trainer and/or jockey were landing their own punt by stopping it. Purely rumour, of course, you understand.
Harry used to be an integral part of the Lizard’s punting machine (and vice versa), but the two have diametrically opposed approaches to the game and their symbiosis as it was has slowly been dissolving. The idea of high-level partnerships has been a brainchild of Harry’s for quite some time and I guess the obvious starting point for a venture of this size had to be Tony Bloom, given his ability to bankroll it. I believe Mr Findlay will look to a range of new partnerships to reignite his vision while the marque horses will remain solely in the Bloom name.
Agree with Fist here. I backed Bond Fastrac at 16-1 at redcar based on his introductory run at Wolverhampton. He was slowly away and then ran on well having been given the sort of intro dozens of 2yo’s are given each week. Some call that being a non-trier, I call it a maiden race where horses are given a nice introduction.
Incidentally, Bond Fastrac was due to race at Wolverhampton on his second start (I was on again) but was withdrawn for being unruly in the stalls. So Redcar was actually his 3rd trip to the races and he probably learnt a lot from the time he went racing…but never ran. Cant comment on Yurituni. Didn’t see his early races…or at least he never caught my eye.
Harry Findlay has just been arrested at Doncaster………
You’re not suggesting the two stories are related, surely
He has not been arrested – apparently it is reported he had a run-in with a CPO before racing.
Thanks to our new Chairman the new stadium at Falmer is looking better day by day.
On time and with all the funds to complete in place.
The Bloom family are Brightonj boys through and through and the whole city is behind him.
The horse mentioned in a previous post
won
and there was no one backing anything against it to decent money.
They had enough confidence that they arranged for the whole family to be there and to collect the prize
Harry must be feeling low now as his major bet for Murray to win the New Yok Open has already hit the dust.
The horse mentioned in a previous post
won
and there was no one backing anything against it to decent money.
Which horse are you referring to Seagull?
He has not been arrested – apparently it is reported he had a run-in with a CPO before racing.
Chinese Philharmonic Orchestra?
Boy are you way off the mark with Bond Fastrac I remember his first run well.
You should read the quotes first, Fist, before you paste them up.
I never said I had a problem with connections giving a first time runner a first day at school introduction. What I did say was that a horse given
3
runs in maidens and never asked a question once in any of those
3
races shouldn’t be given a handicap mark, period.
Likening how Bond Fastrac and Yurituni were campaigned in maidens is sun and the moon stuff.
Your suggesting the owner of Bond Fastrac may have had a couple of grand on at 16/1 in a small maiden at Ripon but the 25/1 into 12/1 at the Dante meeting was a "minor gamble"
. Dont know what betting records your privy to, I have the BF records from that morning to the off time, there was 53 grand matched. Maybe not much to a man like yourself but plenty to most imo.Maybe Yurituni will be in Harry’s fire sale, the handicapper probably has him now.
Bond Fastrac….your day will come.
. Dont know what betting records your privy to, I have the BF records from that morning to the off time, there was 53 grand matched. Maybe not much to a man like yourself but plenty to most imo.
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