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    Market up…..

    https://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/ante-post-racing/national-hunt/greatwood-hurdle/winner

    Certainly no early bet for me here, definitely waiting on the entries first.

    No strong view then, but I suppose last years winner Harambe is interesting at 20’s, while stablemate Midnights Gift could be a dark one.

    Bit of a loud one this, but Ex Mullins inmate, Bonbon Au Miel, now with Sophie Leech, ran very well at Nantes yesterday, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see him head here.

    Those are just very early thoughts, and definitely a race to wait for the initial entries.

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    The market hasn’t missed him but the one I had in mind before the odds went up was Edwardstone. Alan King has a strong recent record in the race and Edwardstone looks tailor-made for a 2 mile, fast paced handicap. I’d be happy with 10/1 for him.

    I backed Harambe last year :yahoo: and i don’t think an 8lb rise rules him out of this but i do think Edwardstone is better treated and perhaps has more potential.

    Of the others, I really like Milkwood but he needs decent ground, although he does have the benefit of race fitness.

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    Elixir d’Ainay is probably well enough handicapped but I don’t know if he is going chasing or what other JP horses would likely go here.

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    I think he’s to go chasing. Why do you mention him for this though, has it been said he’s a possible?

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    No, haven’t heard anything at all, I just thought he was probably well handicapped, the form of his first 2 runs last season looking respectable, then racing too keen over further at the DRF, then running a nice race in the Supreme before he got skittled. Looks like a strongly run 2m suits and he copes with the course. Trainer doesn’t usually send much over early on but in those colours perhaps would.

    Of course if going chasing then if he can’t cut it at top level he could have the option of going back over hurdles for the County or Coral come March.

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    I reckon he’s potentially a dark one for the Arkle, but i’d want to see him entered up first.

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    I was happy to see Alan King confirm in his RP stable tour that Edwardstone is on track for this. Yet to be decided if he’ll have a pipe opener beforehand or not. Personally i would prefer it if he did but i’ll be backing him either way. Already taken the 10s.

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    No bet for me right now, but I’m quite interested in Not So Sleepy at 14-1.

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    Expecting the entries for this midweek.

    Very interesting run from Mohaayed today at Aintree, and although that race confirms Skeltons comments that he’ll be stepping up in trip, do think the current 33’s is huge.

    I’m still very keen on Alan King’s Harambe, and he’s obviously got the favourite too, but he’s got another one who I could see getting an entry, Lord Lamington. Looked decent last year, and he’ll be fit from the flat. I think he’s not without hope here, and I’m hoping to see him in the entries.

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    Not really grabbed by anything right now.

    I still like Harambe at 25’s, while Tudor City catches the eye at 40’s, but I’ll hold fire just now.

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    Sceau Royal heavily backed for this today; could he be the stable first string?

    Looking at the long-range weather forecast, there isn’t that much rain forecast so the ground could well be in his favour.

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    I’m surprised he only got 5lbs for that win

    And second run after a wind op could be more to come

    Can certainly see the angle with him

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    Going to stick with Harambe here, think he’ll put up a good show for a repeat vid, and just might find one or two too good. I reckon I’d be as well waiting now till Final Decs.

    I’m surprised that Main Fact hasn’t got more attention. It’s probably a bit lazy to say that the yard target this meeting, the stats might suggest otherwise, but nonetheless, I’m sure they target plenty for here specifically. Main Fact is a bit of a winning machine, and I think the 7’s is about right. I’ll try to wait for Final Decs with him, but the 7’s is very tempting for a horse who I think is still on an upward curve.

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    Sir Psycho for me at 25-1 ew

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    I’m slightly surprised Harambe is as big as he is but he is clearly a fragile horse to train he was a big fitness doubt before the Greatwood last year and then he was lame and needed antibiotics that caused him to miss the handicap at Ascot in December very much a last minute decision that one and then I’d be slightly concerned as to why he wasn’t seen again after the Betfair Hurdle, he’d have got in the County Hurdle off his mark no problems if all was well with him. Saying all that you can never write off Alan King in this race and that is a big old price being dangled and the win last year could almost be upgraded I suppose given the troubled prep he had. You do need to ignore the age stat (according to Wikipedia only 3 horses older than 6 have won this since 1987 and none since 2009) with Harambe but they are there to be broken and he is still very lightly raced for his age.

    The other 2 I like at the prices are Cormier for the same connections who won the race with Neitzsche in 2018 and Milkwood who I thought ran better than the distance he was beaten by Sceau Royal in the Welsh Champion Hurdle and obviously the winner has confirmed that form as being pretty smart anyway, he is worse off at the weights than Ballyandy here but has the scope to improve that Ballyandy probably doesn’t. He isn’t jocked up yet so I’ll just play with Cormier for the time being at 20’s, this didn’t look that strong a race for its kind at first glance.

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    Its very hard go get away from edwardstone off 142

    Really not sure Cheltenham is his track though, think a flatter speed track would suit more he didn’t get up the hill in the supreme

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