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- March 3, 2021 at 23:18 #1527019
So the yard will go from someone who sits on dead horses to someone who punches live ones.
March 3, 2021 at 23:18 #1527020Maybe Russell is coming in to punch the horses to death, ready for Gordy to sit on?
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March 3, 2021 at 23:21 #1527022
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Getting more ridic by the day
March 3, 2021 at 23:25 #1527025
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Lest we forget
March 3, 2021 at 23:30 #1527026“Visionally, it doesn’t look good, but there was a number of different things that came to mind….”
Poor Davy, he had to do that in order to let her know that some was on her back during the race…..
What a useless pr**k…..
March 3, 2021 at 23:55 #1527027wonder why Gigginstown hasn’t stated anything about Morgan. They don’t seem to be that bothered
I’m with Ruby here, GT. Only two Giggi/Elliott horses have ever broken out of the sports section and made the front page on tabloids up and down the country on both sides of the Irish Sea. One is adored – all those photos of Gordon posing with him, smiling and doing the V for victory sign and only this week it was all “duty of care to Tiger” “we won’t ask him to carry an unfair weight burden”. The other- neither Elliott nor the O’Learys even bothered saying his name.
He didn’t earn them enough money and fame. Of course the bar is high; Thunder and Roses won an Irish National in the maroon and white but it wasn’t enough. T&R ran 26 more times for them and never won again. They dumped his trainer after one poor season and sent him to Mouse. Then they dumped Mouse (although they threw him a few pretraining scraps) and sent him to Elliott. A couple of runs for Gordon confirmed that yes, all the trophy juice had been wrung out of him and they packed their Irish National winner off to the HIT sales at the age of ten and were able to get £21,000 for him.
What hope for Morgan then? He had “only” won 4 races for them, placing at the Galway festival and winning at the Listowel harvest festival. For a small owner, that would be their star horse, those would be treasured as great days. For owners who smirked that a Cheltenham winner was their worst horse, it’s the peanuts dropped on a pub floor. I bet they couldn’t have put a name to him in life if he walked up to them at the yard looking for an apple. In death, probably just a €0 in the accounts if the hunt kennels took him, an inconvenient -€500 if the burnhouse took him, and a fleeting regret that he didn’t survive to turn a few bob in the ring at Doncaster that autumn.
March 3, 2021 at 23:59 #1527028Ruby,
O’Leary has described the incident as “a grievous but momentary lapse of judgement”. Why can’t an owner grieve for their horse in private?tbh It sometimes p!sses me off that people who keep their sadness to themselves are thought of by some social media types as not caring… Just like if someone writes a few words about the death of a horse in the memorials section of this forum, doesn’t necessarily mean he/she cares more about the horse than someone who hasn’t put their feelings in writing.
Value Is EverythingMarch 4, 2021 at 00:06 #1527029I think I read the other day (could be wrong, or perhaps I dreamt it) that Davy Condon is one of Elliott’s assistant trainers. Maybe he would take over in his absence. Who knows?
I am at the point (like most no doubt) where I just want Friday to come round quickly so we can hopefully end some of the speculation regarding punishment.
March 4, 2021 at 00:09 #1527030I doubt Kate Harrington took the pic, probably a stable person , the text under it makes me think it was posted shared between certain people on Snapchat social media which is how the person got it I’d bet
March 4, 2021 at 06:28 #1527032“I think I read the other day that Davy Condon is one of Elliott’s assistant trainers. Maybe he would take over in his absence.”
Whoever takes over has to be a fully licensed trainer.
March 4, 2021 at 10:11 #1527033Agreed the medical black humour can be the blackest of black at times but there are still boundaries which should not be crossed and when, rarely, crossed are very quickly put in their place.
March 4, 2021 at 10:59 #1527038Lovely post Green.
Not surprised O’Leary and Co. didn’t issue any statements of regret about Morgan when they were busy standing by Elliott trying to make excuses for what he had done.
It shows they didnt have any empathy for the horse whatsoever.I understand those who do grieve in silence Ginge but no way is O’Leary one who would keep his sadness to himself.
If it had been a higher profile member of his team it would have been a different story.Has anyone named the poor mare in the Rob James incident?
Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...March 4, 2021 at 11:12 #1527039In the short term at least I doubt it matters who is handed Elliott’s training licence, as it will essentially just be a name to satisfy a legal requirement
It’s the trainer’s assistants and staff who ensure the stable is run as it should be on a day-to-day basis and, other than the likelihood that the atmos will be less than cheerful at present, the ‘well-oiled machine’ and ‘tight ship’ will continue much as normal
So, what’s left of his string should continue running to the form expected of them
It would be the horses moved to other yards that I’d be more wary of as they’ll need time to adapt to change of scenery, change of groom and subtle changes in routine and feed
IMHO
March 4, 2021 at 11:25 #1527043Certainly true about medical black humour. I worked in the dissection unit of a major hospital for a short time and, while the jokes were pretty raw, the bodies themselves were treated with utmost respect and NEVER would anything be shared beyond the walls of the unit, or while visitors were present. Any suggestion that anyone had done so was taken seriously and would have resulted in instant dismissal if proven.
March 4, 2021 at 12:42 #1527046Very true Tonge, but what if your assistant in this hospital was a lover? Some men are easily led, a woman can be very persuasive and can get a man to do something he would not ordinarily do. “Go on, sit on him, smile (woman laughs) now make the V-sign”… That type of thing.
So I do think it matters who took the photo and/or whether the girlfriend was there.
Value Is EverythingMarch 4, 2021 at 12:52 #1527047Having read the above again.
I’d better add: Am not saying there’s anything sexual going on. Just that people are more likely to do something – even something he/she doesn’t want to do – if someone close (a lover/girl/boyfriend/spouse) asks.Value Is EverythingMarch 4, 2021 at 12:54 #1527048I don’t think it matters remotely who took the photo.
The main issue is the photo displays an attitude…Elliot’s attitude towards a horse who just died on his watch. Even for a trainer with hundreds of horses and possibly accustomed to such unfortunate occurances, surely there should have been an ounce of sadness at the event.
The photograph displays an emotional disconnect between the trainer and his horse. And this disconnect certainly wasn’t the horses fault.
Horse racing relies on a public perception that the horse is treated with dignity and respect, and with great love.
This photograph seriously damages that perception.
It on fact creates an impression that this horse was viewed by his trainer as little more than the equivalent of a battery chicken.
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