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I can only agree with what Himself has said, although I may find myself voting Lib/Dem for only the second time in my life at the election.
One minute all politicians were to be hung for the expenses scandal, now the sensitive poor souls have to be treated like vintage coins because big bad Gordon shouted at them. Awwww those poor little lambs. It’s all to be believed, as a charity woman who breached confidentiality rules said so, and she just so happened to be in touch with some tories at the time of her statement. Now Cameron is acting all concerned, and milking the whole thing for every single drip. It’s like the political version of who shot Archie Mitchell ?
Ask yourself which past leader has made so many enenmies within his own party?
Julius Caesar (NAP).
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It has crossed my mind that this bullying allegation has been cooked up in answer to the cringe making interview the other week with piers morgan, when brown was very emotional during the interview whilst talking about his daughter.
No doubt he drew some sympathy from the public and his enemies have sorted this allegation out to counter that sympathy.
I actually thought it was a very ill advised programme to do,surely no. 10 had prior notice of the questions to be asked.One minute all politicians were to be hung for the expenses scandal, now the sensitive poor souls have to be treated like vintage coins because big bad Gordon shouted at them
Suggest you try reading article first. Politicians were not the issue at all
choled…the journalist who wrote this is highly respected long term Observer man. This isnt just concoted rubbish. No one thinks that
Jeremy
nice one…maybe Pol pot tooGutter Journalism! I can’t believe this has been the headline news for the last couple of days. Just watched the 10 O’clock “News” disgraceful spin on this non-story.
Mrs Pratt now says she has had only 4 "enquiries" to her Bullying helpline from staff over the past 18 months from the PMs & Deputy PMs department. No details, no complaints, no evidence, no substance just innuendo . Hardly evidence for anything. A disgraceful breach of confidentiality and you must ask what were her motives for doing this with no evidence at all to back up her claims.
This is just a disgraceful orchestrated character assassination and smear campaign with Cameron scoring political points from the sidelines.
Cannot believe that Brown even gets stick for being emotional at the death of his daughter. However I suppose he would have been slated anyway for being hard and uncaring if he had not been emotional. No win situation when the Press are just out to get you.
There has been a long history of stories/rumours about Brown’s temper, many (most) from within his own party.
Pratt was wrong to risk breaching confidentiality, but it strains credulity surely, even of Labour voting nodding-donkeys, to believe that the Tory party hierarchy would ever countenance such a ploy.
Whatever one thinks of Thatcher (and clearly many on here don’t think a lot of her), she is reputed to have been the model of kindness to staff/minions, only doing an "Alex Ferguson" with her Cabinet members. Rawnsley’s saying that Brown bullies the minions – spot the difference?
(Ted Heath – one of the worst PMs on record – but now relegated to 3rd worst after Browen & Blair) was a tosser, but is reputed to have been a near saint to the Whitehall staff who served him.
It’s worth recalling that Brown was the leader of the pack that utilised Damian McBride (remember him?), although Brown denied any knowledge whatsover of McBride’s game.IF you want a list of the stories going back years re. Brown’s tantrums, take at look at Ian Dale’s blogspot – he lists them in one of his blogs. (Yes yes, I know Dale’s a Conservative, but he’s actually quite a sensible chap and will take shots at his party when he thinks they merit it).
I could have cut and pasted it, but it’s a lonnnnnng list.They should be paying me eh Marble?
(FWIW – I’m no lover of Cameron as some of my posts on another website would show.)From an earlier post from Himself:-
..Most of the British (nay, make that English) voters are fickle. Most like to be on the side of the winner – and most are taken in by the manipulative Murdoch led press/media
Sorry Himself, but I nearly wet myself when I read this.
At the last election, there were MORE votes cast for the Conservatives in England than any other party. Our Scottish cousins + the FPTP electoral system contrived to give an unpopular party (in England) a whacking majority.
Sometimes life aint fair – and then people post things like "we get the government we deserve". Well, the English didn’t!From an earlier post from Himself:-
..Most of the British (nay, make that English) voters are fickle. Most like to be on the side of the winner – and most are taken in by the manipulative Murdoch led press/media
Sorry Himself, but I nearly wet myself when I read this.
At the last election, there were MORE votes cast for the Conservatives in England than any other party. Our Scottish cousins + the FPTP electoral system contrived to give an unpopular party (in England) a whacking majority.
Sometimes life aint fair – and then people post things like "we get the government we deserve". Well, the English didn’t!Insomaniac, far be it from me to verse you on the mechanics of British poltics, or indeed, political elections; especially the General type.
I cast no aspersions on the English people as human beings and upstanding individuals; none whatsover – fine breed as they undoubtedly are
– but I maintain that, in voting terms, those same people can be quite a fickle lot when marking their ballot papers. I’m quite sure that the good people of England, if not the rest of the UK, will get the Government ( and the Prime Minister
) they truly, truly deserve at the next General Election. I just hope ( for his sake ) that his Scottish surname doesn’t cause the Eton old boy too much consternation thereafter. By the way Insomniac, a female friend I know does a neat line in incontinence knickers – if you’re interested.
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Cameron’s surname doesn’t bother me one bit – it’s how good a PM he’d be (and I don’t think he’d be that good).
It doesn’t bother me where he went to school – that’s immaterial. It’s if he’s up to the job that counts. Brown (in my opinion) clearly isn’t and shouldn’t be rewarded by re-election. Trouble is, one can’t have any great confidence in the tories either.
Re. The incontinence knickers: Might look a bit funny to the neighbours on the washing line.
How many have actually read the extracts (which were very comprehensive) in the Observer?
I would definately suggest that most of those calling it "gutter journalism" and so on, havent. They do not appear to even be aware of the basic facts of the story.
clivexx
Rawnsley might be a respected journalist, but he is also trying to flog a book,and cute stories dont sell.
that pratt woman was on the radio yesterday and if anything seemed to be backing down from the whole thing now.This really is a story over nothing and Cameron wants an inquiry? Why – did Gordy shout at him too? Let’s waste more public money shall we? Bosses have tantrums every day of the week, and no bullying is not acceptable, but he is in rather a unique job, with just a bit more responsibility than the average boss. I am sure Churchill would have resigned immediately if someone had a go at him for shouting and losing his temper.
Thatcher may have been nice to the number 10 staff – well they did bring her tea and biccies – but that’s about as far as her ‘nice’ extended.so given a choice would you buy shares in a company –
– With a leader who is respected and liked by his staff
– With a leader who is feared and despised by his staff
thats what this is all about isnt it? Electability comes down to the very nature of goverment as well as idealogy
Anyone who is pretending this "doesnt matter" hasnt a clue about the inner workings of any organisation and what succeeds and whta doesnt
Clivex – you seriously think people buy shares based on the personality of the CEO? No I don’t think so.They buy them because they want to make money. For the company to be successful. A few may have moral issues about people or products, but generally – naa – that’s not how the world works. If that’s how you work – great, but this really is a storm in a tea cup. You have never lost your temper at work? You have never thrown anything or hit something or broken/torn up something in a temper or through being frustrated about a situation? Written an angry email, had a row on the phone with someone? As for suggesting I know nothing about how organisations work, we have just been given a 174% of performance bonus because our company has had a great year as all departments have worked hard and together to achieve success, rescuing ourselves from previous totally incompetent senior management. My MD is a total dick in my opinion, has no man management skills at all but he is very good at what he does. I am sure the Board will fire him come next meeting because ‘everyone’ knows he is a dick, but he has been there 3 years and this is our best year to date, so somehow I doubt it as he has been a dick since the day he started.
Yes. Given two identical companies in balance sheet terms, i would certainly buy shares in the company that had a happy and motivated staff that respected its leadership rather than one whos leadership was dysfunctional
If i could buy shares in John Lewis i would. If i could buy shares in the Post Office i wouldnt
Anyway. Brown is dead now. Even the mild mannered Downing has stuck the knife in today
Doesnt it occur to you that it is not exactly an endorsement of his decision making and leadership skills when his staff hate him, his colleagues despise him and when things dont go his way, he throws tantrums?
nice one…maybe Pol pot too
– but I maintain that, in voting terms, those same people can be quite a fickle lot when marking their ballot papers. 
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