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June 15, 2019 at 22:32 #1445455
What’s wrong with the old McNae-dog, GT?
The only weak link in the RTV line-up is Dave Nevison IMO.
I was on Chester duty today – very very impressed with Durston’s win in the TV race. I think he’s a potential group horse, especially in those conditions.
June 15, 2019 at 23:19 #1445457You were right, Istabraq; Glan Y Gors a non-runner.
One of those paid by Lost Soldiar and Co to save those nice Bookie chappies each way money?
Only joking, LS. :whistle::rose:at least they paid out 1/4 on Raheen House placing because of that, how generous of them
June 15, 2019 at 23:26 #1445458Nevison comes up with some daft stuff when in the ring and tbh I don’t like his personality; but he knows about form. Where as although I don’t mind Angus McNae as a person…
He doesn’t seem to know what form means. eg – As Mekong – believing a win in a mickey mouse race on heavy is better form (that he’s better on heavy) than second in a Group race on good-firm (not so good on good-firm.
Also, does he actually do his homework or just copies what others say? Am I the only person who thinks he appears to take what the other expert says; then proceeds to say give an opinion that’s exactly the same – only in different words.
Value Is EverythingJune 16, 2019 at 00:15 #1445461Raheen House ran well for a long way, may have needed it more than the winner. That said, in truth hasn’t won the races one of his ability should. Not sure he’ll ever find a lot off the bridle, but if anyone can get him winning Haggas can.
Glad you did him ew, Istabraq.
Value Is EverythingJune 16, 2019 at 09:20 #1445481Fair shout, can understand what you mean about McNae. Perhaps he is on cruise control sometimes although the person in his seat (sometimes Rachel Casey or Tom Stanley) does often have to play the ingenue and let Calvin, Candelora or whoever the expert may be do the bulk of the talking.
No excuse for being unprepared and bluffing your way through, though. There are dozens of people who’d enjoy that job.
June 16, 2019 at 15:14 #1445508Aaaaaaarrrrrgh!!!
Bloody French slowly run races!Value Is EverythingJune 16, 2019 at 15:57 #1445510Ginger do you think they ran slow because the ground was announced firmer than it actually was (innacurate reports like what happened before), or because they just run slower than usual in french racing compared to GB?
June 16, 2019 at 17:00 #1445513Good point, Istabraq. Bit of both I’d say. It being firmer than the official going report probably meant they went slower than usual… which along with the French style of racing exaggerated things further.
Value Is EverythingJune 16, 2019 at 17:08 #1445515Ascot Gold Cup:
40 points @ 10/1 (B365) Dee Ex Bee
Had hoped to wait, but it’s the last of the 6/4 left so…
saver:
50 points @ 6/4 (B365) Stradivarius (min 6/4)
a little more than a saver just in case there’s something else at a big price.Value Is EverythingJune 16, 2019 at 17:25 #1445518Just noticed that Visinari has been taken out of the Coventry at 48-hour decs, probably best to wait until the day of race markets now for RA.
June 16, 2019 at 17:30 #1445519RA?
Do you mean all of Royal Ascot or just a horse with innitials RA, Oasis?Value Is EverythingJune 16, 2019 at 17:30 #1445520Royal Ascot
June 16, 2019 at 17:57 #1445521Yes, on the whole think I’ll take your advice, Oasis. Didn’t particularly want to do Stradivarius until the day, but he’s shortened in to Evens or 11/10 in most places now; so felt had to take 6/4. Don’t usually do savers ante-post. Made a mistake with Visinari; apologies. Knew it was asking a lot to come here after just 10 days off! Am a massive fan of the horse (backed him for the Guineas) and probably drawn in by Calyx’s debut/Coventry performances too – in quick succession succession. With Visinari losses my Threat bet is nowhere near as good now despite technically halving in price. Obviously disappointed Visinari doesn’t run, Qabala non-runner too, but most ante-post Royal Ascot bets have shortened significantly so got to be reasonably pleased at this stage. Market moves suggested Mustashry might come out of the Queen Anne too; glad he’s still there at the moment.
Value Is EverythingJune 16, 2019 at 19:29 #1445532The joys and perils of Ante-Post betting GT!
Mustashry has been a bit weak in the market the last week or so – noticed he drifted to 6/1 with Bet365 which I thought a bit odd seeing he won the Lockinge pretty convincingly.
June 16, 2019 at 19:43 #1445533Don’t *think* there are any particular negative vibes around for Mustashry, just strength in others.
There has been some tipster momentum behind Le Brivido – Calvin and Holding among the ‘faces’ stepping in to tip it in the last week or two. There has also been a good deal of money and confidence behind Barney Roy. Hugh Taylor tipped Olmedo on the ATR preview night and gave Hazapour a good word too.
I think Mustashry edging out a bit is more to do with this strength of others rather than anything w/r/t his own prospects. Potential soft or good-to-soft ground would be a part of it too.
I too am a little surprised to see Le Brivido so clearly favoured by the market for all he had a much worse trip in the Lockinge. Mustashry’s Lockinge speed figure is better than any of the field have clocked lifetime.
June 16, 2019 at 22:56 #14455452019 Queen Anne:
25 points @ 20/1 Century Dream
55 points @ 5/1 (B365) Mustashry
32 points @ 9/1 (B365) Le Brivido
saver:
22 points @ 6/1 (PP) Barney Roy (min 11/2)Value Is EverythingJune 16, 2019 at 23:11 #14455502019 Queen Anne:
25 points @ 20/1 Century Dream
55 points @ 5/1 (B365) Mustashry
32 points @ 9/1 (B365) Le Brivido
saver:
22 points @ 6/1 (PP) Barney Roy (min 11/2)
Another:
10 points @ 6.4/1 (betfair) Mustashry (min 5/1)
(If you have no ante-post bets then it would be 72 points @ 6.4/1 Mustashry and 48 @ 6/1 Barney).Value Is Everything -
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