Gigginstown winding down

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    Will definitely result in a more mullins prize money domination in the short term… but 5 years is a long time, plenty time for them to change there mind

    Elliot will have to take the approach willie did the other year and diversify his ownership, but he has plenty time, i dare say if mullins decided to expand right now he could just about “own” irish racing for the long term, more so than he already does (he wont though)

    Sad times regardless, but i echo what kev said, ittl reduce the prices of p2p horses, but not enough to make the little guy the big guy, alot more horses will end up in britain again, thats all ittl do.

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    befair
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    I didn’t enjoy Road to Riches plodding around in a hunters chase today. This is a horse who won a number of big races, and was a close + competitive third in one of the great Gold Cups. If JP owned him I suspect he’d be having a happy retirement by now

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    TheKryptonFactor
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    The same Road To Riches who was 3rd in the Aintree foxhunters, Befair? Hardly think new connections should be desperate to retire him just yet.

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    Many of the top French horses are direct sales from the trainers and do not see the sales rings. When O’Leary walked away from Mullins it was not just the training he walked away from – it was the network Mullins
    has in France/Ireland to buy good horses. It took Paul Nicholls years to recover from Bromley
    working directly for Munir/Souede.

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    ham
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    Cant believe the price of blow by blow

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    jackh1092
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    Same Ham- his novice chase form at the backend of 2018 wasn’t so bad- given time and a break he could be a nice horse for someone. Giggy and Elliot (adding him in as it’s the trainer’s championship that probably pushes giggy to run them so much) have ruined some horses. Don’t get me wrong they aren’t surefire superstars, but some of them have been forced to run in Nationals that want 2miles. Terrible.

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    It looks like O’Leary will be investing all his time in Ryanair over the next few years as he tries to increase profits of the airline. Yet more hidden charges and cost cutting to dream up.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49751711

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    some of them have been forced to run in Nationals that want 2miles. 

    True, although they had fulfilled their function well before the tapes went up. Once they had made it to race day and thus successfully blocked good up and coming non Giggi horses from getting a run, they and whatever clapped out nohopers Giggi were fielding for the same purpose were allowed to canter round the back and pull up when they got a bit tired.

    Here are The Game Changer’s notes from his 41st start under rules, the Irish National. He never raced beyond 2m4f before or since, and ran mostly at 2 miles.

    “Held up, mistake towards rear at 5th, no impression after halfway, ridden and weakened after 18th, pulled up before next”.

    So the horse was allowed to stop before the next fence once it was tired. The poor nag did however “contest”- in the loosest possible sense of the word- a G1 2m chase 8 days later.

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    jackh1092
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    Oh yeah GAG, but that’s one example- they are very hard on their horses which is fair enough, but to constantly fire them over long trips etc, they treat them like MOL treats Ryanair staff haha!

    It’ll be interesting to see if any trainer can get them back and firing, not sure it’s very easy done!

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