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it makes me sick that you call yourself horse lovers and you can mock the problems george washington is having with his fertility you didint mock him when he was winning races
Couldn’t agree more.
It seems reasonable to infer from the fact that GW got some mares in foal in March that his problem may be merely one of sexual immaturity. Perhaps he needed nature’s "hints" in the form of longer daylight hours and milder temperatures to kickstart his sperm count.
For the life of me, I can’t see the need to post infantile, sniggering comments like those from jaffa23 (does the 23 refer to his/her IQ?). Please try to grow up, or join the Betfair forum.
thankyou venusian for agreeing with me the way some people are mocking george washington i agree he just might need time to mature i would love for him to be able to proove all these doubters wrong
Out of interest does anyone know if impotence/fertility/libido/performance problems are more common the younger the stallion is when retired to stud? It would seem quite plausible if a higher percentage of 2 and 3yo Entires – being physically immature – were more prone to problems than 4yo+ as their biochemistry will of necessity be having to cope with the rigours of muscle/skeletal development as well as what’s bubbling up in the gonads.
And mental immaturity/problems apply too, which IMO would seem the most likely cause of GW firing blanks.
Nuts off and a long career as a high class gelding gracing the sport for its own sake; if Coolmore cared one jot about the long term well-being of the breed.
Quote: from Drone on 8:03 pm on Mar. 28, 2007[br]Nuts off and a long career as a high class gelding gracing the sport for its own sake; if Coolmore cared one jot about the long term well-being of the breed.
Why on earth should GW’s (seemingly temporary) fertility problems disqualify him from covering and ipregnating mares in the future. Do you think that horses like Sundridge, The Tetrarch, Honeyway and Alycidon should have been gelded?
Quote: from Venusian on 8:19 pm on Mar. 28, 2007[br]
<br>Why on earth should GW’s (seemingly temporary) fertility problems disqualify him from covering and ipregnating mares in the future.
It was the mental attributes of the horse I was referring to not his – possibly temporary – fertility problems. Don’t think it’s in the best interests of the breed to pass on the genes of an ill-tempered oddball notwithstanding the fact that horses with ‘kinks’ have for some reason been allowed places at stud in the past.
Mental soundness and resolution is oh so important in the thoroughbred and while it’s by no means certain GW’s traits would be passed on to his offspring, a suck it and see approach does not seem wise to me.
Of course he may ‘grow up’ and his demeanour improve so I’ll be generous and wish him ‘good luck’ as he embarks on a 4yo career on the racecourse, and intact.
George Washington had his quirks but he never really "dogged" it in a race say like Antonius Pius. Montjeu was similar, quirky going down the start but ran gamely in the race itself.
<br>Aidan,
I suppose ‘dogged it’ might be a bit strong, but his performance in the Celebration Mile at Goodwood wasn’t exactly straightforward as I remember it.
To quote from the Timeform report on that race – ‘he’d go next for the QE2 and while his ability to win such a race isn’t in doubt, his attitude now is’.
AP
In Racehorses, they claim they very nearly gave him a squiggle after it.
Can you imagine the furore if they had? Blimey.
Quote: from thebroons on 5:18 pm on Mar. 28, 2007[br]it makes me sick that you call yourself horse lovers and you can mock the problems george washington is having with his fertility you didint mock him when he was winning races <br>
I apologise for my comments earlier about the RACEHORSE George Washington, I had no idea that by making a little quip on a forum could cause you to become vomitis. Does the horse have access to the internet or what?????
If he does I’ll give him a few websites that will get the gun firing on all cylinders so to speak…….. oh no I’ve done it again haven’t I?
Please lighten up a wee bit
‘he’d go next for the QE2 and while his ability to win such a race isn’t in doubt, his attitude now is’.
Yes but as the trainer stated before and after the race we wouldnt see the real George Washington until Ascot. Horse was blatently some way off full fitness (ring rusty through out) and the odd nature of the race made things worse. Looked like he didnt handle the track either.
Jazza I dont think you need to apologise for your comments, completely up to you. Just a shame (up until now) that there are more "gay jokes" on the racing forum about last years Champion miler than there is comments about likely targets, clashes and outcomes etc.
Theres no one out there more excited by the news of his comeback than me. As I’ve stated before on other topics I hate seeing horses retired early just because they earn millionaires more money. Hopefully he retains his unbelievable speed and can become the horse we all think he can be. At least he has that chance now.
Is it a proliferation of gay jokes or just a lot of (old and new by the way) members being incredibly immature?<br>
(Edited by Salselon at 7:33 am on Mar. 29, 2007)
George Washington showed even in victory that he was temperamentally fragile. Have a look at his crab-like action when going to the front in the Guineas. He also hung the other way when winning the National Stakes as a juvenile.
He also hung the other way when winning the National Stakes as a juvenile
Enough gay jokes now ;)
Anyway, its good to see him back. A fabulous horse with genuine charisma
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Mental soundness and resolution is oh so important in the thoroughbred and while it’s by no means certain GW’s traits would be passed on to his offspring, a suck it and see approach does not seem wise to me.
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