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  • #48229
    Galejade
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    Interesting – but obviously we still do not know what exactly George’s problem has been. Coolmore have done well to keep such a lid on it which perhaps suggests there is still future hope.

    #48230
    davidjohnson
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    Either way I think that Black Sam Bellamy’s assertion that George could enhance his stud value on the track this year is false. No matter whether he wins every Group 1 race between 6f and 10f this year, who is going to book their mare up in advance to a horse who couldn’t deliver the goods the year before. I don’t think there is any likelihood they will be able to command anywhere near the fee they advertised on his retirement until he has proven he can sire above average racing stock.

    #48231
    aston
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    A champion hurdler of the future!

    #48232
    aphardy
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    I think people are being unfair to George. Breeding is a very funny game and some people/horses find it hard to perform under the spotlight. Maybe he needs to be slowly encouraged to perform his duties – maybe take the mares out for a stroll in the country, followed by a few drinks etc.

    Or maybe he’s waiting for that one special mare to lose his cherry to. Romance is not dead in this sport yet…

    #48233
    clivex
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    Rumour is that he had a thing for Holy Roman Emperor, which is why they had to pack him off to stud 😮

    He wants a leather blanket for the paddock now too

    #48234
    Sal
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    Don’t think they’ve lost hope – it’s still possible we may see a mini-George or two next year.

    Sounds like they are hoping an extra year’s maturity might boost his fertility levels, so I don’t think he’s having the snip just yet.

    #48235
    wit
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    from the timing of the announcement, one might speculate that the problem is seminal rather than a disinclination to go through the physical motions.

    also that he passed the early, pre-covering seminal tests taken on specimens into the artificial vagina.

    since it takes about two weeks to scan mares after covering, one might guess the actual problem was identified not that long before the 10 March announcement, only after the actual coverings.

    its all surmise, but that’s where my money would go.

    i’m sure Coolmore would love to have GW standing, producing seven figures in stallion fees this spring and shuttling income later,  with HRE doing the racing.

    but its not the first time Magnier’s had, and overcome, such problems – El Gran Senor a case in point.

    insurance-wise, i believe stallion infertility insurance typically pays out only where there is "total and permanent" impotence, infertility or incapability of serving mares "as a result of an accident, illness or disease incurred during the policy period."

    The latter phrase is key: the problem must be shown to be caused by a specific accident, illness or disease, or there’s no pay-out under the policy.

    A number of reasons then for Magnier to call in Dr Dixon Varner, the vet he named a horse after in 1990 ( I think it was Sangster who did the naming on Dr Devious).

    interesting also to remind oneself that GW was bred by Roy and Gretchen Jackson, of Barbaro fame.

    best regards

    wit<br>      

    #48236
    Gareth Flynn
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    interesting also to remind oneself that GW was bred by Roy and Gretchen Jackson, of Barbaro fame.

    A Kentucky Derby and a Guineas within hours of each other… and neither ending up at stud. Unlucky or what?

    #48237
    Galejade
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    What is going on at Coolmore – are there any implanted moles who are members of TRF?

    Encosta de lago, Coolmore’s fantastically successful sire by Fairy King( Sadler’s Wells brother) has been flown over to Coolmore at this halfway point in the breeding season. Are rumours of Sadler’s Wells infertility problems well founded?

    #48238
    Gigginstown Man
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    Run him over hurdles. The two miles shouldn’t be a problem over the sticks.. He  may have a problem with fences though!!!

    #48239
    Sal
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    Galejade, Coolmore are having a problem with their ‘capacity’ at the moment – too many mares with not enough stallions to cover them.  The take-up on HRE was good in that nearly all the George book were happy to switch to him, but because their stallions cover so many mares each there aren’t many spare slots for the rest.

    SW has had well documented problems in the past, and is very much an old boy now, so it is not surprising if he can’t quite complete his book.  There are also mutterings that one of the other new boys is struggling to fulfill all his requirements.  I think EdL is a bit of an emergency catch-all, to make sure they have some extra capacity.

    #48240
    Gareth Flynn
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    There are also mutterings that one of the other new boys is struggling to fulfill all his requirements.

    Which one?

    #48241
    aphardy
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    "Run him over hurdles. The two miles shouldn’t be a problem over the sticks.. He  may have a problem with fences though!!!"

    From the sounds of it, if he were to go over obstacles, his jumping would sure to be perfect as he’d have no trouble getting his undercarriage down.

    Ba-da-bing:biggrin:

    #48242
    clivex
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    The take-up on HRE was good in that nearly all the George book were happy to switch to him,

    Well they would be. No fun being shagged by a nutter who probably prefers colts anyway

    #48243
    PAULCS
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    <br>Entered in Tattersalls Gold Cup apparently.

    Can’t see him running over 1m2f again but surely an announcement on his future will be made very soon…..

    #48244
    clivex
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    Ive heard that he wants to run at  Brighton 😮 😮

    #48245
    jazza23
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    Well they would be. No fun being shagged by a nutter who probably prefers colts anyway<br>

    I have heard from a fairly reliable source that they are going to start dressing mares up with moustaches and beards so big George can do the business.

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