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- April 14, 2017 at 17:33 #1296740
No secret that I will be going for EMINENT in this race currently 6/1 with Bet365 but no other bookies pricing up the race at the moment on Oddschecker, sure that will soon change.
This big striding colt by Frankel (You’ll Be Mine(Kingmambo) ran away with his Maiden on the Rowley Mile 22nd September running slightly green in the early stages he ran on to be clear of the field a really impressive performance. That day he beat two John Gosden newcomers Vantage Point and Azam and in 7th place was AOB’s Taj Mahal.
Eminent has wintered well filling his leggy frame and looking fit and ready to run, no reason why he shouldn’t take this race on his way to Classic glory.
If Law And Order (Lawman-(Catbells)(Rakti) also runs in this race he will be a danger to be reckoned with having just won his prep race on the All Weather at Lingfield on 8th April running on to hold Mr. Scaramanga by a neck. He really took my eye at Newmarket last August staying on over 7f and beating Rummani.
EMINENT – WIN
Law And Order – Each WayGreat 3 days ahead..can’t wait to be at the pre parade for this race..Jac
Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...April 14, 2017 at 21:42 #12967878-1 available with Paddys so I’ve topped up in addition to the 6-1 I’d already taken with bet365.
April 14, 2017 at 22:37 #1296791Thanks greenasgrass I’ve just been to Paddys and put my bets on now. 8/1 seems really generous Eminent and 12/1 for Law And Order is great value too.

Last year the race was won by Ventura Storm , Hannon’s horse and there were only 4 runners. The ground was good to soft and there had been a lot of rain. This year there seems to be plenty of runners but expect that not all will run if the ground is not in their favour.
Really looking forward to this race and seeing Eminent back on the Rowley Mile in winning form again.
JacThings turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...April 14, 2017 at 23:00 #1296793Hes entered and jocked up in the Craven but not jocked up in the Feilden. I hope they go Feilden, I see him more as a 1m2f horse than a miler. But theyre obviously still in two minds judging by the trainers quotes:
“One has to be a little bit worried about the lack of experience, but that is why we want to run him in Craven week, so we can give him a bit of experience.
“To win first time out over a mile is a bit annoying in a way, as it would have been better winning over seven then we could have gone straight into the Craven for that. Now we have to consider whether we go for the Craven or the Feilden (over nine furlongs).
“He will be entered in both and we will decide from there. My own little feeling is that he is a horse that will get further than a mile.
“I would be more confident if it came up a bit softer. I would be quite happy with a bit of rain. I’ve got to look after him a bit, so a bit of give in the ground is important.”
April 15, 2017 at 09:36 #1296837Yes your right Dex looks like he’s going the Craven route now with Jim Crowley booked to ride.
I think whatever Martyn Meade decides will be the right way to go and I did always hope he would go for the Craven it’s a more prestigious race than The Feilden. There is rain forecast and we had some last night where I live about 40 miles from the course.
Looks like I’ve lost my AP bet on Eminent in The Feilden but Law And Order is jocked up for this one with Martin Harley on board and now he is my main bet for this race.
LAW AND ORDER – WINGood luck if you back Eminent for The Craven Dex and thanks for the helpful info…Jac
Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...April 16, 2017 at 11:46 #1297001I’m a little disappointed with the field for the Fielden.
Only 7 runners now and after the possibility of Akihiro, Cracksman, Eminent etc taking part it’s broken down into a race of very exposed runners. Nothing here really interests me as Classic potential.
On a more positive note I managed to snag some 3/1 on Godolphin’s Salsabeel for Tuesday. I mentioned to Jonibake on the Frankel thread that I wanted to take on Seven Heavens because he was so headstrong last time out. They had priced the Bet365 conditions stakes with the Gosden colt 11/4 and Salsabeel 3/1.
Salsabeel looked quite impressive first time last year and was a narrow second next time out. He had Taamol, who ran at Newcastle the other day, and Hannon’s Larchmont Lad, in behind him that day at Doncaster and I know those two are fairly well regarded. It’s a bonus that Seven Heavens was not declared this morning and Salsabeel should take the beating in the modest enough contest for William Buick. He was entered in better races at the meeting.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
April 16, 2017 at 11:57 #1297003Duplicate
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
April 16, 2017 at 12:57 #1297006From hearing the trainer talk so far this season I get the sense that Kirk will be gutted if Salouen didn’t win this. And on form he is clearly the likely winner with Moore up.
April 16, 2017 at 17:26 #1297029From hearing the trainer talk so far this season I get the sense that Kirk will be gutted if Salouen didn’t win this. And on form he is clearly the likely winner with Moore up.
Salouen should take the beating. He ran placed in two Group 1 races at the end of last season, the Lagardere in France and then the Racing Post Trophy.
I think I will just leave this race though. Salouen had nine starts between June and October last year and that was a busy campaign. His best form is in places rather than wins, so at 2/1 I am not sure of the value.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
April 17, 2017 at 19:38 #1297203On a more positive note I managed to snag some 3/1 on Godolphin’s Salsabeel for Tuesday.
Steve, do you like Salsabeel in tomorrow’s race more due your value concept, or is he also the likeliest winner for you in there? I like him too, but I don’t know this Via Ignatia horse of JG, at least she is racebets’ favourite.
Would you say this is justified or maybe a trap of them?April 17, 2017 at 20:04 #1297210On a more positive note I managed to snag some 3/1 on Godolphin’s Salsabeel for Tuesday.
Steve, do you like Salsabeel in tomorrow’s race more due your value concept, or is he also the likeliest winner for you in there? I like him too, but I don’t know this Via Ignatia horse of JG, at least she is racebets’ favourite.
Would you say this is justified or maybe a trap of them?I thought Gosden’s Seven Heavens may have run here and I wanted to take him on because he was a horse who was a hard puller last season. In the end he didn’t turn up and Via Egnatia is representing the stable.
The tipsters are all over the Gosden colt, no doubt because he ran out a 7 length winner last time. I feel Salsabeel has the stronger form here. The Godolphin colt won on debut and then only went down a short head in a Listed contest next time. In contrast Via Egnatia won a maiden race. Via Egnatia had looked nothing special in his first two starts and if anything in horse racing is over regarded it is wide margin winners. Only one winner has come from Via Egnatia’s maiden win in eleven attempts since. That win was in a three grand Kempton maiden. If we look at Salsabeel, the horse who finished just behind him in third last time went on to land a Group 3 and he lines up in the Craven this week (Larchmont Lad)
Via Egnatia is running in a first time hood and that is another reason for me to feel he is a bad value favourite here.
Of course horses change from two to three and it’s a bit of a guessing game but Salsabeel is 7 lbs ahead currently and having only had two starts, still looking a bit green second time, he should have more to come. I have some 3/1 but if he drifts to 2/1 tomorrow I will probably have another bet on him.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
April 17, 2017 at 20:11 #1297211Thank you very much, Steve for your precise and detailed statement
!April 17, 2017 at 23:51 #1297239I’m not that keen to take on Salouen given he’s the only one bringing top level from into the race and looks like the trip will really suit. He’s 15/8 in places and I can’t help but think if trained by a Stoute or a Gosden he’d be nearer even money. I think the danger will come from Al Hamdany who took a while to find his feet last year before being eased down to beat a subsequent winner to break his duck at Kempton before splitting D’bai & Forest Ranger at Pontefract in a race he should have been given in the stewards room. I’ll chance with the reverse forecast here.
I don’t fancy much else on the card but I will actually take on Salsabeel & Via Egnatia in the Conditions race with Time Zone at 12/1. James Doyle’s in the plate and this one quickened well to win over C&D on his only start in a stronger maiden than the 11/8 fav won (albeit not by as far but that was his debut) and the trainer’s confidence in the horse to start of the campaign in this despite the workable handicap mark is promising.
April 18, 2017 at 13:59 #1297292Khalidi is the one for money in the Fielden. He was 7/1 but is now half those odds.
The Gosden colt has a run under his belt but was 3rd in a Handicap at Doncaster last time. I can’t back him at those 7/2 odds.
Salouen at 9/4 looks the one to be with.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
April 18, 2017 at 17:54 #1297301I did Salouen in the end, the odds pulled me in. He ended up going down by a neck to John Gosden’s Khalidi.
Money came for Mark Johnston’s Montataire but he went out like a light after trying to make the running. I am not a fan of the stable and 7/2 had looked short enough to me. It was a tame effort.
Salouen and Khalidi came clear of the others by more than 3 lengths. The Gosden horse just had that bit better burst on the day. The commentator in Ladbrokes opined that Salouen might reverse the form next time. It didn’t look a great renewal and perhaps my first instinct that Salouen had plenty enough runs at 2yo and maybe not as much scope as some, may have had some truth to it.
Salsabeel was confidently supported in the end but he also went down by a neck on the day. Via Egnatia was well beaten off, his race run fairly early into the closing stages. Gosden’s colt had drifted out to 9/4 but just as the trainer was telling Racing UK that his horse was only 80% to 85% fit, punters started backing the colt into 15/8.
It was Andrew Balding’s Beat The Bank who kept on well to hold off Salsabeel and win at 7/1. Salsabeel looked like collecting but he was unbalanced going into the dip and although he started staying on hitting the rising ground the winner was always holding him at bay. Salsabeel looked a little awkward today, probably still a little green and a mile would help him. Once again, 3/1 into 5/4 but no cigar for me. It’s a tough game.
Well done Beat The Bank fans, I felt he had a bit much to make up on Salsabeel today. Via Egnatia was the bad original fav I felt he might be. Gosden said coming in that the colt’s Guineas entry was probably unrealistic.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
April 18, 2017 at 18:32 #1297304I was surprised the way Moore rode the favourite considering his best runs last season came with hold-up tactics.
The winner did have race-fitness, anyone who’s anyone has been saying Gosden’s horses are needing their first run and the winner had that.
April 18, 2017 at 22:36 #1297325Khalidi is the one for money in the Fielden. He was 7/1 but is now half those odds.
The Gosden colt has a run under his belt but was 3rd in a Handicap at Doncaster last time. I can’t back him at those 7/2 odds.
Salouen at 9/4 looks the one to be with.
What a shame you didn’t stick with that first thought Steve Khalidi won smartly from Salouen who never looked like catching him and although he looked a picture in the paddock he was drifting on the course, they came strongly for Khalidi. The two horses pulled away from Law And Order (raced too keenly today) who in turn was a fair bit in front of the 4th horse Max Zorin.
Khalidi’s success highlights the chances of Godolphin’s Bin Battuta running in the last race tomorrow (Wednesday).Elyaasaat looked ready to run a decent race in the first race but completely spoilt his chances by being coltish in the paddock
Salsabeel looked well turned out today but he’s still work in progress and he was unbalanced coming out of the dip which destroyed his chances of beating Beat The Bank, he is a very imposing looking horse worth following through the season.
Via Egnatia didn’t impress in the paddock today and even less on the racetrack, like a lot of Gosdens he looked as though he needed the run.Well done to anyone who found the winner.
Jac
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