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    Mike007
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    Will be interesting to see how Military March copes in the Guineas.

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    Bobby BluebellBobby Bluebell
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    Thanks Frenchy for the reply. Unlike you, I believe Military March has a very good future. I was very taken with his Autumn Stakes win. I think he will excel over 12furlongs. He’s got the looks, the breeding and an excellent attitude. He earned a very good speed rating for that Autumn Stakes win and was very strong on the line.

    Mike, I’m very intrigued to see how he copes with likely fast ground. He moves like he enjoys a bit of cut in the ground. It’s not an overly round action so he could get away with it, but it is a worry for both the Guineas and the Derby.

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    Mike007
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    I saw a William Haggas interview that Nick Luck did recently.

    He said, with what looked like a hint of a smile and a glint in his eye, when asked by Nick Luck if the rumours were true that Al Aasy was the best horse in his yard, that he thinks he could be very good.

    So a dark one for the race I would say.

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    botchy1botchy1
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    Mogul starting off in the Derrinstown Trial at Leopardstown on Tuesday June 9

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    Frenchy15
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    Good news for Mogul, what are the English trials we have then? Is it Lingfield Derby trial and then something at kempton on AW isn’t it? Those races are 12 max? How will that get decided? Will be some horses wanting a run that might not I guess? Will Al Aasy be one of those horses perhaps?

    Bobby, not dismissing MM, he might very well be a good horse just unsure about the Guineas and Derby. I’m very intrigued to see how he does next weekend also, for sure if he’s 3rd or 4th he’ll come crashing in for the derby!

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    FinalFurlong91
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    The Edward VII stakes and ribblesdale stakes are going to be derby and oaks trials this season

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    Frenchy15
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    Could be right I guess, or even the Hampton Court Stakes actually

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    FinalFurlong91
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    It says on the ascot website in the article talking about the 2020 festival that they are derby and oaks trials

    https://www.ascot.co.uk/royal-ascot-2020-order-of-running-announcement

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    Frenchy15
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    Oh yeah you’re right. I dunno if that is just Ascot trying it big up the races a bit though, probably is this year but I guess it doesn’t really matter. I would think though a trainer will only run if they don’t have another choice and are desperate for a run. Not ideal to go 12f under 3 weeks before which is why they might consider the HC Stakes as only a day later.

    In any case you think of all the horses that will need a run before the derby and there’s loads and not enough places surely anyway. How does it get decided? Have they said? On rating?

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    Mike007
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    Mogul 10-1

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    nwalton
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    One at a big price (50/1)is Arthurs Kingdom looks certain to stay and Aiden O’Brien might bring his usual army over for the race

    #1489043
    Mike007
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    Innisfree has had a setback. On the easy list for at least a fortnight.

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    hein bollowhein bollow
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    I hope Gosden is still aiming Waldkönig at this one :good:
    Not getting a prep race wouldn’t be a problem, as this is quite normal for JG’s horses :-)

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    Frenchy15
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    Waldkonig was super impressive on his debut Hein, could be something special. There is a quote somewhere from connections about his action though, he’s unlikely to handle Epsom on fast ground i would think. For me he’s definitely one to note when the conditions are spot on but Epsom? Not for me.

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    hein bollowhein bollow
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    Several people are with you on that Frenchy!
    Apart from his “knee action” and the ground etc I would at least confirm that Epson is a frickin’ unfair track :-(
    Before the wolves will be howling here :whistle: :
    Our leading track Baden Baden is also quite unfair..

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