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  • #10078
    Avatar photoDallimann
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    Good afternoon

    is there anywhere online where one can see the early entries eg, for the 4th and 5th of February?

    thanks.

    #206343
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    Good evening

    For the past 20 or so years we have been operating a 5 day entry system in this country. This means, that owners or their representatives (the trainers) for a race on Saturday have to make an entry by the preceding Monday, for example.

    Big races operate differently, and you have to enter either a few weeks, or even a few months (Derby) in advance.

    I believe that final declarations for Flat racing and Grade 1 over the Jumps are made 2 days beforehand, and everything else one day. This might be slightly wrong as I am old, amnesiac and decrepit and I either find it too difficult to keep up with changes, or can’t be bothered.

    Gerald

    PS sorry for not saying welcome to the Forum, I’ve never been into social niceties. There are a lot of nice people here.

    #206375
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    On the racing post website, I tend to go via the entries of a particular horse that I know is in the field, but there is usually a link if there is an associated story.

    This should be the page for what was formerly the Tote Gold Trophy (Schweppes before that)

    http://www.racingpost.com/horses/racing … 2009-02-07

    First Saturday in Feb.Can’t see you’d be interested in any other race such as the Aon or Game Spirit. :lol:

    Five day entries are available via a number of places.

    I tried accessing entries for big races via the BHA website a couple of weeks ago, but I think for some peculiar reason you have to be an owner, trainer, jockey’s agent or member of the press to access that bit.

    #206394
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    thanks Gerald…I was interested in the Novice Hurdle on the 5th at Huntingdon…

    #206399
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    I suppose a few of us will have a look on the 1st to try to figure out why. :wink:

    #206412
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    sorry, didn’t mean to be secretive or anything…we’ve entered Der Spieler :)

    #206434
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    The Gambler.

    Read Dostoevsky’s novella when I was 18 or 19.

    #206445
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    or should I say, we are entering him… :oops:

    #206450
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    Maybe you HAVE entered him? There is no need to wait until the last moment, but I suppose it is prudent to wait until the morning of the deadline, just in case of those frequent injuries and illnesses.

    #207238
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    Aather (IRE) 4 – A Fleming

    Bespoke Boy 11 4 – P C Haslam

    Cesium (FR) 17 4 – T R George

    Cosmea 79 4 – A King

    Der Spieler (GER) 4 – C Von Der Recke

    Excape (IRE) 4 – N J Henderson

    First Avenue 4 – G L Moore

    Giorgio Quercus (FR) 36 4 – N J Henderson

    Helium (FR) 50 4 – N J Gifford

    King O’The Gypsies (IRE) 4 – J Howard Johnson

    Optimus Maximus (IRE) 17 4 – N J Henderson

    Purely By Chance 14 4 – J Pearce

    Rio Laine 17 4 – T R George

    River Ardeche 34 4 – P C Haslam

    Rock Exhibition 4 – B W Duke

    Running Buck (USA) 4 – A Bailey

    Shipboard Romance (IRE) 9 4 – K J Burke

    Stow 15 4 – Miss Venetia Williams

    Terrasini (FR) 95 4 – J Howard Johnson

    Woody Waller 11 4 – J Howard Johnson

    #207239
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    don’t think there will be a big field…what do you think?

    #207246
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    Hi Dallimann

    I’m not into hurdlers. Surely you are more interested in WHO turns up, rather than how many?

    Der Spieler was briefly famous earlier this week, as he was tagged onto the bottom of the story about Fiepes Shuffle, on the front page of the Racing Post website.

    Because of that, he was added to the betfair market for the Triumph Hurdle.

    Any plans for that? There is also the Fred Winter Juvenile Handicap Hurdle at Cheltenham.

    Gerald

    #207266
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    depending on how he runs on Thursday…Fred Winter isn’t an option (need 3 runs), and that doesn’t come into question for Der Spieler..

    #207268
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    hope you’re wrong with the…."briefly famous"…. :)

    #207318
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    Hopefully someone more knowlegable than me will read this and correct or affirm it, but I believe you can run in a h’cap after 2 runs, so long as you win one of them.

    But I suppose if you win at Huntingdon, then the Triumph will definitely be the target anyway.

    I hope you don’t mind me asking a couple of questions.

    A few years ago the Triumph Hurdle had a reputation as a tough, hard race, that ruined the careers of racehorses. (But maybe the horses weren’t as good as people thought?) Are you worried about the mark that the race might leave on the horse?

    On a similar theme, Kempton and Huntingdon are different kinds of track from Cheltenham. Will you really know what to expect from the horse at Cheltenham?

    Also, unless Dresden is left-handed, Der Spieler has never run on a left-handed track.

    Does Der Spieler have any quirks?

    That all reads as being rather negative, but all I’m trying to do is ask some questions out of curiosity, as I’ve never been involved in horseracing.

    Gerald

    #207324
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    Gerald,

    The rules were altered this year so that any horse that has run twice over hurdles can be entered for a handicap and will be given a mark if the handicapper feels he has enough evidence. This change was made because trainers were finding it difficult to get the necessary third run in a novice hurdle due to multiple eliminations.

    However, for top class handicaps, such as the ones at Cheltenham, the three run rule still applies, regardless of whether a horse has won or not. So to run in the Fred Winter, a horse must have run three times before Feb 22nd.

    #207328
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    Der Spieler doesn’t have any quirks at all…he is in actual fact very laid back. He got left flatfooted at Kempton, and seeing as Huntingdon is a similar track, he’s more likely to be ridden closer up. Now, Cheltenham would be a track he’d like in my opinion. But, that all depends on Huntingdon. Dresden is a right handed track, he’s so laidback though, lefthanded wouldn’t bother him at all. He did disappoint on the flat in Germany as a 3 year old, but since we’ve had him he’s done nothing wrong.

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