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    Folks on the Cusp of the Craven , some proper racing gets into gear now , gone are the dark days of winter plus the dross AW racing that comes with it …class 7 puke fest …class 6 dodge fest ,,,

    Dont bet on it …..Dont watch it …..Ignore it IS IN MY OPINION …bent from start to finish .. as we approach the flagship Good Friday , just remember how much has been lost , cheated , fiddled , to get to this point .

    The flags will be waived on friday as a new dawn for British racing , but in reality its a shame that this crap is allowed to happen , it was meant to be a back up for days when bad weather made Turf racing a no go …but it has mushroomed into a large chunk of our fixtures ….almost 30 per cent ..and bigger if the bookies get their way ….

    AW racing is the weak point of British racing , the scandals continue to come and go , but still the programme goes on , the money men must be sated , the levy protected … at what cost …

    Er your cost actually , you the punters , the bettors , the supporters , treated like mugs at each and every opportunity

    Ignore it folks ,…its the only hope for proper racing to be restored to its rightful place

    In my opinion of course

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    Ricky,
    I am against Rubbish Racing (Class 7’s) as much as you. But how are Turf Class 7’s any better than AW?

    Surely it is a good thing to improve the quality of AW racing? By bringing in Class 2 races wich are far less likely to have any skulduggery.

    These races should be welcomed.

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    Ginge ,

    I am talking about AW racing as an entity to be avoided .

    lets not skirt around it

    of course Class 7 in all spheres are rubbish

    cheers

    in my opinion

    #475646
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    Ricky I totally agree
    I never ever bet on it now and don’t watch it.
    If that is what racing turns in to then I will no longer follow it and I have followed racing for the best part of 40 odd years.
    You correctly say it was brought in as a filler if NH racing was off in winter and it was never meant for summer.
    It reminds me of the computer racing that they show and to my horror people actually bet on and study form WTF is that all about. The lunatics have taken over the asylum.
    I am with you.

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    Ricky,
    I am against Rubbish Racing (Class 7’s) as much as you. But how are Turf Class 7’s any better than AW?

    Could you explain why Class 7s are any worse a betting proposition than Class 6s or even the mighty Class 5?

    What is Class come to that?

    regards
    Drone (Class 8 )

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    Are we allowed to bet on it on Friday (minimum pot per race at Lingers is 150k)?

    Mike

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    Ginge ,

    I am talking about AW racing as an entity to be avoided .

    lets not skirt around it

    of course Class 7 in all spheres are rubbish

    cheers

    in my opinion

    Folks on the Cusp of the Craven , some proper racing gets into gear now , gone are the dark days of winter plus the dross AW racing that comes with it …class 7 puke fest …class 6 dodge fest ,,,

    Dont bet on it …..Dont watch it …..Ignore it IS IN MY OPINION …

    bent from start to finish

    .. as we approach the flagship Good Friday , just remember how much has been lost , cheated , fiddled , to get to this point .

    bent from start to finish"

    .

    The flags will be waived on friday as a new dawn for British racing , but in reality its a shame that this crap is allowed to happen , it was meant to be a back up for days when bad weather made Turf racing a no go …but it has mushroomed into a large chunk of our fixtures ….almost 30 per cent ..and bigger if the bookies get their way ….

    AW racing is the weak point of British racing , the scandals continue to come and go , but still the programme goes on , the money men must be sated , the levy protected … at what cost …

    Er your cost actually , you the punters , the bettors , the supporters , treated like mugs at each and every opportunity


    Ignore it folks ,…its the only hope for proper racing to be restored to its rightful place

    In my opinion of course


    Sorry about the blue. :lol:

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    Ginger , your thinking is a bit skewed (lay off the coffee for a bit )

    Friday is the culmination of a 6 month long AW cheatfest ….of course the races and quality are much better than the dross normally on offer

    HOWEVER …having one good card does not make up for 6 months of cheating , fiddling , and bending of races , the entire card wont resemble anything like the norm ,,,,dross fest on offer during the winter

    You know this , I know this …so lets not evade the issue

    What was once a back up for days when turf was gone due to inclement weather , is now a monster , 30 per cent of the racing programme

    Having One good day on Friday , will not make up for the mish mash of fixtures normally available during the winter …Hence I am asking for a total Boycott ….Ignore it

    In my opinion

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    Ricky,
    I am against Rubbish Racing (Class 7’s) as much as you. But how are Turf Class 7’s any better than AW?

    Could you explain why Class 7s are any worse a betting proposition than Class 6s or even the mighty Class 5?

    What is Class come to that?

    regards
    Drone (Class 8 )

    Dimwit.

    Let me explain.

    ‘Class’ means that if you don’t back the 40-1 winner of The Scottish Grand National, you can still waffle on about the lovely atmosphere, great crowd, plucky winner, every chance in hindsight, maybe I should go next year as I hear they do a good pint.. etc etc

    However, if you don’t back the 40-1 winner of the

    Do Your Nuts On Our FOBTs 0-60 Handicap

    on the AW then it’s basically theft, fraud and corruption ‘cos all the ‘connections’ have decided beforehand which horse is going to win and you’re never, ever going to bet on low grade racing ever again (until next time,

    natch

    ).

    Can’t help noticing that Micawber’s principle applies in both cases. You’re down a quid. Result: misery.

    Hope this helps.

    Mike

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    Ricky,
    I am against Rubbish Racing (Class 7’s) as much as you. But how are Turf Class 7’s any better than AW?

    Could you explain why Class 7s are any worse a betting proposition than Class 6s or even the mighty Class 5?

    What is Class come to that?

    regards
    Drone (Class 8 )

    We had a thread all about that subject somewhere fairly recently Drone; can anyone remember what it was called and put up a link?

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    Folks on the Cusp of the Craven , some proper racing gets into gear now , gone are the dark days of winter plus the dross AW racing that comes with it …class 7 puke fest …class 6 dodge fest ,,,

    Dont bet on it …..Dont watch it …..Ignore it IS IN MY OPINION …bent from start to finish .. as we approach the flagship Good Friday , just remember how much has been lost , cheated , fiddled , to get to this point .

    The flags will be waived on friday as a new dawn for British racing , but in reality its a shame that this crap is allowed to happen , it was meant to be a back up for days when bad weather made Turf racing a no go …but it has mushroomed into a large chunk of our fixtures ….almost 30 per cent ..and bigger if the bookies get their way ….

    AW racing is the weak point of British racing , the scandals continue to come and go , but still the programme goes on , the money men must be sated , the levy protected … at what cost …

    Er your cost actually , you the punters , the bettors , the supporters , treated like mugs at each and every opportunity

    Ignore it folks ,…its the only hope for proper racing to be restored to its rightful place

    In my opinion of course

    Thanks Ricky, an entertaining read

    Would I be correct in surmising that your puce prose indicates that despite your best endeavours a winter at Kempton did not realise the anticipated bulge ?

    No matter, your annual trip to Las Vegas will no doubt see you right :lol:

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    Dimwit.

    Let me explain.

    ‘Class’ means that if you don’t back the 40-1 winner of The Scottish Grand National, you can still waffle on about the lovely atmosphere, great crowd, plucky winner, every chance in hindsight, maybe I should go next year as I hear they do a good pint.. etc etc

    However, if you don’t back the 40-1 winner of the

    Do Your Nuts On Our FOBTs 0-60 Handicap

    on the AW then it’s basically theft, fraud and corruption ‘cos all the ‘connections’ have decided beforehand which horse is going to win and you’re never, ever going to bet on low grade racing ever again (until next time,

    natch

    ).

    Can’t help noticing that Micawber’s principle applies in both cases. You’re down a quid. Result: misery.

    Hope this helps.

    Mike

    Nothing to do with it as far as I am concerned Mike.

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    Would I be correct in surmising that your puce prose indicates that despite your best endeavours a winter at Kempton did not realise the anticipated bulge?

    To be fair, not even I get

    that

    excited by the AW.

    Mike

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    Drone ….you are so right , I could not make it out at all . apart from one nag trained by J Noseda , who won there 3 times and will probably clean up on turf , the remainder left me clueless ,,,did I do my bollocks ….no , but I sure as hell did not make anything worthwhile …in the 6 months I followed it , it became more and more of an enigma , form meant nothing , market moves did by and large ., most races stank to the heavens so I left them alone

    Vegas beckons in July , but back for Goodwood :mrgreen:

    Mike I laughed …brilliant response …shame Ginger does not get the joke ….sigh

    IMO

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    Ricky,
    You said the AW was:

    bent from start to finish

    Either AW is "

    bent from start to finish

    " or it is not.

    If the Class 2 racing is not bent then the AW is not "bent from start to finish", and it is therefore the quality of racing (not the surface) that is the problem.

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    #475665
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    Ginger , your selective memory is at work … :P

    One swallow does not make a summer

    one days racing does not make up for the previous 100+of cheating

    If you dont get this , just go back to your bubble ….no harm done

    we are all pals , just please dont post back at me because I will call in the thought police (Drone to you sir ) to sort you out ….

    I sometimes wonder how you reason things out …but then again maybe you dont ……..

    :mrgreen:

    In my opinion

    #475667
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    Is that Vegas any good, Ricky? I feel I should go there.

    Sand jolly backers have their sacks full….. :shock:

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