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Quote: from Racing Daily on 3:15 am on Sep. 18, 2005[br]He almost got Misu Bond brought down, by going for a gap that wasn’t there, and I don’t know what he was doing in the next race. Never gave the horse a chance. Not one of his better days.<br>
I’m sure you’ll understand my frustration at seeing Misu Bond win the big one at Redcar at 28/1 :(<br>The difference was that the horse had a decent jockey on board today.
Surely if you knew the reason he got beat last time was because his jockey was so s**t
, you filled your boots with Culhane replacing the 3-times champion?If I had seen the horse running, I would have backed. No doubt about it. However, I was a Newmarket today and didn’t pay a lot of attention to Redcar. I don’t read up on Redcar usually at anyrate. Those odds would have been irresistable had I seen it running though. Gutted!<br>I won at the races, had Peerless and Race For The Stars, so that takes away the bad taste somewhat.
BTW, I didn’t say Dettori was a bad jockey. I said that his ride of Misu Bond was a bad ride. There is a difference.
I’d be very surprised if the sheik dismissed Frankie. Top money jobs are always about decision-making; nobody gets them right all the time, including when a decision is made, contrary to orders received from the individual’s principal/line manager.
Frankie was desolate after the race, feeling he’d let his boss down badly when, in fact, the winner actually covered more ground. It was an anomaly, plain and simple, and not an implicit expression of contempt for his employer.
Even though it’s still the case that orders are orders, when particularly specified, I don’t think Frankie’s maverick action comes into the same category as that of the French jockey dismissed by Wildenstein. His was a second offence of precisely the same nature, and I’m not aware that he proferred any explanation or apology to Wildenstein. Fool me once it’s your fault, fool me twice, it’s my fault. It was he who chose "the highway", imo. It was just common sense. Wildenstein effectively had no choice.
But the Godolphin people and Dettori go back a long way, and one, of course, marked by great and enduring success. Apart from these attenuating circumstances (and given that they exist), I suspect a good degree of mutual respect, and affection exists between the parties. Anyway, that’s my take on it.
It is also the case that Frankie is a genius, and his employers evidently recognise it. Neither will ever be the flavour of the month in England, as we get peed of seeing the best horses being bought and trained by furriners, and usually ridden by them too.
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(Edited by Grimes at 9:55 pm on Oct. 1, 2005)
Insignificant race run on a ridiculous track though it is, Dettori attaches considerable importance to winning the Derby. If he finally wins it this year, what are the chances of him hanging up his boots for good? He’s destined for a career in daytime TV (watch out Ainsley Harriet) so why not go out in a blaze of publicity. Having backed Kerrin McEvoy for the jockey’s title at 33-1 I’ll be hoping Godolphin’s ‘number one’ does the decent thing after Epsom. Go Authorized!
He rode the best horse of the last 20 or so years and he still couldn’t win it. I don’t think he’ll retire if he does win, probs just be out on the ale for 2 weeks straight ;)
Regardless of whether Frankie wins the Derby or not, he’ll still continue, as he’s got a good couple of years left at the top level at least. A win on Authorised may just mean he finishes his career before he jumps the shark, so to speak.
Dettori should have 20 years at the top level if his heart was in it, but that’s exactly the point. His heart hasn’t truly been in it for ages and he will almost certainly look to get out on a high. Winning the Derby won’t see him hang up his boots immediately but will see him riding only until he loses the high.
The Derby doesn’t have the same significance it once did, but is it now insignificant ? I think that many breeders, owners, trainers, jockeys, and the masses who’ll be attending Epsom on the big day, will beg to differ.
Agreed Clint.
Using this board as a barometer – and assuming this board is at all representative – of all races, only the Cheltenham Gold Cup attracts similar anticipation, debate and participation. And that’s another code entirely.
I think I’m right in saying that Sir Percy’s win last year attracted an attached thread which was live for three weeks after and emergent themes were still being discussed in November.
I think those trading with stud would also disagree with the notion that the Derby is irrelevant. IMO it’s the highlight of the flat season.
The Arc is the highlight of the flat season for me..
Last seasons being a good example.. Previous winner and world champion, Japanese triple crown winner, BC turf winner, Champion stakes winner (Highest rated filly in the world) and the leger winner.. and then you have the horse that actually won it!!!
I’d rather have an Arc winner…
Arc day at Longchamp is, by a distance, the best day’s racing during the flat season.
In Europe at least.
Quote: from Aragorn on 12:36 pm on May 22, 2007[br]The Arc is the highlight of the flat season for me..
Last seasons being a good example.. Previous winner and world champion, Japanese triple crown winner, BC turf winner, Champion stakes winner (Highest rated filly in the world) and the leger winner.. and then you have the horse that actually won it!!!
I’d rather have an Arc winner…<br>
I’d agree with that
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