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  • #6258
    Avatar photorory
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    He does exist ~ I can verify that.

    #135303
    Irish Stamp
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    He looks too much like Shane McMahon of WWE fame for my liking.

    Decent tipster though :)

    #135307
    clivex
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    I thought it was a bit disappointing. I didnt expect anything profound or particularly informative but it was very lightweight. Reading about old bets (always successful ones) is pretty boring and i found myself skipping a few pages. His galavanting around is a bit of a yawn too

    He touched on some of the psychology here and there and you wished it went a bit further. There was some scope there…

    Its ok. But dont expect too much. And you wont really remember much from it

    #135315
    clivex
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    hmmmm….

    Might refer back to that tonight. I think he was mildly so. i do recall that he was an admirer of Steve Mellish

    #135335
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    It’s a very easy read, no more than a couple of hours needed to polish off the 250 pages, if you can face it in one sitting.

    Can’t say it did a lot for me though the nuggets about his conversion – on the advice of Eddie Fremantle – from impulsive ‘lumper’ into a more considered value (ha ha) punter and tissue-compiler is essential reading for the wannabe novice.

    Other than that I found it superficial, formulaic froth in the main. Tales of thousands won and lost (yawn) booze-ups (yawn), one-night stands (yawn) and the inevitable long losing run that nearly wiped him out.

    The final chapter is vaguely touching as it describes the realisation that his obsession with gambling has cost him his marriage and a stable family life (he now rents a flat) and that perhaps it’s now time for him to take stock and slow down…there but for the grace of god…?

    Must say I preferred the fella before I read the book and was disappointed that, in essence, he’s just another flash high-roller in the Cincinnati Kid mould, albeit a capable interpreter of form and astute punter.

    #135351
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    Who does he diss from the RUK brigade???

    Buy it and read about them in the context Nevison intends. As some RUK members contribute to this forum it seems inappropriate to name names here, out of context.

    And I fear it would only lead to yet another interminable thread on who likes/dislikes who.

    #135363
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    As he has lost his wife and stable family life as a result of punting has he got a problem, dare I say it, an "illness"?

    It was quite a bet that one :shock:

    Agree with Drone. Summed it up better than me and would add that when he touched on the above subject, thats when i thought it would finally become interesting

    #135455
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    This book is in my possession, given me by someone incorrectly thinking I would be interested in such shenanigans.

    Nothing against Mr Nevison personally, and I’m sorry to hear of his marriage breakdown but I do not see the merit in people who are considered ‘professional punters’ and why they’re put on such a pedestal particularly by younger males, as if this is a useful career move. I think it’s a bad example and not to be encouraged.

    Further, to spend a lifetime with a professional gambler must be a very dull experience. I wouldn’t want one in my lounge.

    Mrs Happy :lol:

    #135473
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    Mrs Mare, I’ve written a piece for the Lounge on this very subject if you fancy a dekko. :D

    #135479
    Ugly Mare
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    Oh I do Max, and how nice to see you again. I thought you were lost to us, philandering gadabout that you are :lol:

    I will have several questions over in the Lounge, relating to our earlier discussions. :D

    #135498
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    He looks too much like Shane McMahon of WWE fame for my liking.

    On the subject of wrestling…

    I sometimes have a look at the BBC’s racing site and noticed that jackane24 of blessed memory was a regular contributor on there but had recently got himself banned because apparently he’d posted a link to his blog. I googled his name in an attempt to find his blog – you may have gathered I was at something of a loose end – and found the following which conveys the rather surprising news that our old friend is a member of a wrestling forum plus the less surprising news that he has lost none of his ability to start a fight. Talk about tact.

    http://www.ukff.com/lofiversion/index.php/t102689.html

    #135501
    yorkshirepudding
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    A lady friend of mine bought it for me for christmas, I enjoyed it, as for phylandering, the mans a mere amature gentlemen at being a ****.

    :D

    #135504
    clivex
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    Oh god Gus

    Ive looked. its priceless stuff!

    :D

    #135521
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    Isn’t it just, Clive!

    Proof again, were it needed, that hardly anyone on TRF has ever had such a talent for starting a fight apropos of absolutely sod all as young Mr 24, surely a man born with 10 green biros instead of fingers.

    gc

    Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.

    #135537
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    I do not see the merit in people who are considered ‘professional punters’ and why they’re put on such a pedestal particularly by younger males

    I think it’s the "flash high-roller Cincinnati kid" type that younger males generally seem attracted to, and that’s the main reason for my disappointment in Nevison’s book, as he strives to perpetuate this superficially glamorous though essentially unsavoury, egocentric and doomed existence.

    The few ‘profitable punters’ (loathe the term ‘professional punter’) I know personally, rather than by reputation over t’internet are the antithesis of ‘flash’ and more-or-less share the following traits: quiet, introspective, sober, seek the shadows, covet anonymity; and are quite content to grind out no more than a handy supplementary income from comparatively modest ‘low-rolling’ stakes conservatively deployed.

    as if this is a useful career move. I think it’s a bad example and not to be encouraged.

    David Elsworth said all there needs to be said about racing, and hence betting:

    "When you think about what we do, you can’t take it too seriously can you?"

    #135543
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    Don’t recall Jackane being particularly prone to effing and blinding when on this forum.

    Grasshopper must have been the young man’s role model

    f*uck me :)

    #135631
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    Ive nearly finished reading the book and have found it an enjoyable read.

    One thing that struck me is his somewhat disregard for the sport of horse racing. I starting getting in to horse racing for the love of the sport albeit the gambling exacerbates the enjoyment. His betting styles of backing numerous horses in a race, backing and laying of the same horses would take the enjoyment out of the racing for me, though how can i criticise a very successful professional punter if this style of betting is profitable?

    Being a 20 year old student, I considered becoming a professional punter, but this book greatly discourages me. I wouldn’t want to lose my enjoyment of all sports and have gambling as my ‘life’ so to speak. Obviously, Nevison’s professional gambling isn’t reflective of all pro’s but it gives a somewhat inglorious insight into the art of professional gambling.

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