Dante Meeting 2013

[elgransenor1]

To be honest, having looked at the Dante again, I’m going to scrap my opinion that he’s a decent each-way bet.. I think he’s a pretty cast-iron place lay sadly.

And by tomorrow he’ll be nailed on each-way again LOL.

Is this a cunning ploy to post every possible opinion, hoping no one will notice, and then after the event quoting the relevant one to say "Look, I told you so"

Be warned, I’m logging all your posts for future reference

LOL

it’s more of a case that I tend to post throw-away comments,of which i’m ashamed of after i’ve done some proper analysis

[elgransenor1]

It’s hard to see him winning at Epsom though. You need to travel there to get a position, it’s much more of a speed track than York. On the Knavesmire they just gallop and gallop up that home straight, and he was getting scrubbed along the home way up it, having just watched the race again.

In the Derby he won’t have the luxury of time to get into it. The race is more than likely to be over by the time he’s got going. Dancing Brave didn’t travel in the derby and nearly won, but he’s one of the best horses you’ll ever see. Libertarian isn’t in the same league.

They went very fast upfront, the race sort of collapsed and basically the only genuine mile and half horse outstayed them. He’s game and very progressive as you say, but it’s a huge step to imagine him winning a derby.

To be honest, having looked at the Dante again, I’m going to scrap my opinion that he’s a decent each-way bet.. I think he’s a pretty cast-iron place lay sadly. The track will be all against him. I think the connections should scrap any plan to go to Epsom and save him for the Curragh, where he’d have a much better chance.

If you don’t think he is going to be placed presumably you have a string of solid alternatives? No doubt one of which is a 5/4 shot with significant stamina doubts? Personally, I would rather have a horse staying on than one who might spend the last two furlongs treading water – at least at the comparative odds. As far as I can see this is a very weak Derby renewal and for me the Dante represents the best trial by some distance. What price do you think Libertarian would be if Stoute/Cecil trained him? I suspect about 4/1.

I just take the view now (although this is subject to change ) that Epsom won’t suit the horse. Unless he’s found a cruising gear we haven’t seen yet, I think it’s safe to say he’ll be scrubbed along rather vigorously around Tattenham corner, and given the difficulty of the track, and the speed with which the race will unfold, that’s not something that’s going to help his chances.I will be quite pleased to be proved wrong though!

Would be nice to have a Northern winner of the Derby especially as I live there!

[wilsonl]

Coral spokesman David Stevens defending their decision to cut the jolly to Evens;

"I think it’s very much a possibility Dawn Approach will go odds-on.

"A lot will depend on the final make-up of the field, most notably where the Ballydoyle runners go, but after a series of inconclusive trials the most impressive performance we have seen is from Dawn Approach in the Guineas. It was a rock-solid effort, he’s trained by a Derby winner

and he ticks all the boxes

."

Who the **** are you trying to convince ?

Of course he deserves to be a short priced favourite and I think he’ll win but he’s never won over further than a mile and his pedigree doesn’t exactly shout stamina so how is that ticking all the boxes ?

Lee

[stevecaution]

Windhoek could well win but it would be just as likely if he finished 5th.

And he was 5th!! Mystic Meg strikes again LOL

Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

[andyod]

Good for you Steve.Only the great reference themselves.

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