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No point my putting up tips anymore, I just seem to have a unique ability to find losers. I mean if you just guessed you’d have a significantly better strike rate than me, I’m just very good at picking out loser horses. Clearly got to go away and sort out some kind of work on form and other aspects or just not worth continuing.
I just serve as a doorstop for other more proficent tipsters to flex their ego, and not interested in that.
tata everyone, I really won’t be back anymore, sick of it.
Judge, at least you had the nerve to start the thread and throw up your selection. My choice got called a “muggy bet”, I know how it feels when your choice gets short shrift here before the race even takes place. Still, there is usually/always intelligent analysis here from all the regulars, yourself included, not the pocket talking troll-y shite elsewhere on the internet.
Punting seems bloody unfair when something you’ve carefully selected gets caned…doesn’t seem like you get the rewards for putting the work in. Anyway good luck, whether you decide to post here again or not.
WD SteveC for picking the winner.
Yeah, hang in there Judgey – you’ve been knocking out more winners than me this year! It takes guts to come out strongly with something and you need those sort of strong opinions to beat the game.
Nice work with the winner, Steve. Annoying when something like Dartmouth wins unbacked – it all seems to so simple now. Best form, guaranteed stayer, goes on the ground. Tick, tick, tick, win.
No point my putting up tips anymore, I just seem to have a unique ability to find losers. I mean if you just guessed you’d have a significantly better strike rate than me, I’m just very good at picking out loser horses. Clearly got to go away and sort out some kind of work on form and other aspects or just not worth continuing.
I just serve as a doorstop for other more proficent tipsters to flex their ego, and not interested in that.
tata everyone, I really won’t be back anymore, sick of it.
I enjoy reading your opinions and your enthusiasm shines through.
It’s tough getting winners. I have endured one of my longest losing runs recently and you end up feeling it’s a conspiracy as likely looking winners keep getting pegged back late, or just running like drains. I had some sort of record the other day when Kevin Ryan’s Brando ran 7 stones below form with a measly effort of 17 from a sprinter rated 115. There’s just no explaining it sometimes and if you look at any Newspaper Tipsters, you will see them struggle as much as anybody, despite being deemed experts.
I was lucky with my pick today. I thought Moore got after him a bit late and had wandered too far away from the field than was ideal. Luckily Dartmouth found a bit in the dying strides to get up. The TV commentator said that Ryan looked relieved and I think the jockey made it harder for the horse than was necessary and he almost got the horse beaten. Of course, everyone was waxing about what a brilliant ride it was, but, for me, the horse got the jockey out of trouble today.
Thanks for the congrats everyone.
Hang in Judge. One thing with this Racing game is that there’s another chance on another day and there are some good betting heats tomorrow.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Well done Steve
Judge, I think it’d be a massive shame if you went. I like reading your opinions on here.
I don’t know if this makes it any better Judge, but I actually backed Crimean Tatar for the Coronation Cup.. Yikes. Nice winner Steve.
Don’t give up Judge – we all back more losers than winners. He just hated the ground. The stable are in poor form too with just 1 winner in the past two weeks and only 13 all year. After showing so much promise I hope this is just a bad patch for HP. He doesn’t write his blogs anymore either! :(
"this perfect mix of poetry and destruction, this glory of rhythm, power and majesty: the undisputed champion of the world!!!"
I noticed that with HP, Joni. Hannon’s website use to bang there before the event but know seems to arrive after, great if you have a time machine….
Judge, stick with it, unless of course if you are losing more than you can afford too. In which case take a break for a while, clear the head and come back and try again.
We all have plenty of losers. The game can make you look a right t!t at times, I remember putting up the Falmouth thread one year with the title Sky Lantern Certainty of the Year and it came stone last.Gaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
ATR have a Hugo Palmer stable tour dated a couple of days ago
CRIMEAN TATAR
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Winner of two of his 3 starts and currently rated 109. Scored by seven lengths from Mazalto on his debut at Newmarket (1m 4f) last July and followed up with a half length defeat of Chemical Charge in a Listed event at Kempton (1m 4f) in November when seen out next. Creditable reappearance in the Group 3 John Porter Stakes at Newbury (1m 4f) in April when fourth, beaten two lengths, to Muntahaa.
“He will run in the Yorkshire Cup provided the ground isn’t too quick which I don’t think it will be but otherwise he could run in the Aston Park as well. He is already rated 109 and is a seriously exciting prospect. Hopefully, he will develop into a top class staying horse and be effective over trip ranging from a mile and a half to two and a half miles in the Ascot Gold Cup.”Gaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
I expect quite a few sets of connections have come away from this race smiling.
Dartmouth‘s options have expanded and he should have a full season at the top level 1m 4f – 2m.
Simple Verse ran a blinder considering she needed the outing. She’ll find easier openings than this, especially against her own sex.
Endless Time wasn’t given an especially hard time by her jockey, suggesting there are other days for her too.
What a run from High Jinx, all credit to Tim Easterby, especially considering he usually struggles to get one ready first time out.
Marmelo ran as well as could be expected too.
I did Dartmouth at 4/1.
There is still scope for Stoute to wring improvement from him at 5YO and he’s one of the few I would see as sure to go close today.
I think combination of trip and track should suit and his win from Highland Reel at Royal Ascot in the Hardwicke is the best piece of form here. 2/2 at this sort of trip, I think he will be a tough nut to crack with the best jockey on board.
Well played again Steve. Two nice tips in two days! It was just a watching exercise for me. Too many horses in the field are favourites of mine that have won me nice money previously. Dartmouth, Endless Time and the lovely Simple Verse. Had i have backed one, the other would have won lol. Its just what i do!
I was very impressed with Dartmouth and thought Simple Verse had an absolute blinder and was unlucky not to win.
Again, well played Steve….I think its time to drop ‘Caution’ from your user name
@Judge – I like reading your synopsis of the races. Shame to see you step away but understand if thats your final decision.
Thanks again.
Neither Crimean Tatar nor Muntahaa ran their races today.
Crimean Tatar won a maiden last year and was speculated upon as a Leger horse. I didn’t think it was much of a race he won and it is yet to throw up another winner in 22 starts. It was a long while before we saw Crimean Tatar again but he took a good step forward from 94 to 109 in beating Chemical Charge in a Listed race at Kempton. His first start this year probably saw him run to the same level, when Chemical Charge reversed the form on 5 lbs better terms in a group 3 won by Muntahaa.
For some reason Crimean Tatar just didn’t run to form today. Hugo Palmer is struggling. He is 1/23 and 4% this past fortnight. His other two runners today were woeful, Mount Moriah went of 13/2 but was beaten 81 lengths.
I went against Galileo Gold in the Lockinge because of the Palmer form in part. I’d be nervous about the Guineas winner from last season, given the stable form. The betting for that race has seen Galileo Gold drifting to 4/1 and Ribchester in to 13/8. Given that there was only a fag paper between them when betting opened, it shows the importance of the stable being somewhere near their annual average and not well below it, as Palmer currently is on 4% current, versus 18% annual. It’s well below “Normal Service”
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Do you think Hugo has lost the plot a bit, Steve? A few strange decisions from him lately and seems to be messing Josie Gordon around with the riding arrangements. I’m sure the owners have a say too, but Hugo Agogo seems to jock his supposed ‘stable jockey’ on and off all the time. He was tetchy when RUK popped him that question the other day too.
Bit of a strange move to go up in trip with Majoris tomorrow too, looks like the last thing that horse needs based on his run last time out.
Do you think Hugo has lost the plot a bit, Steve? A few strange decisions from him lately and seems to be messing Josie Gordon around with the riding arrangements. I’m sure the owners have a say too, but Hugo Agogo seems to jock his supposed ‘stable jockey’ on and off all the time. He was tetchy when RUK popped him that question the other day too.
Bit of a strange move to go up in trip with Majoris tomorrow too, looks like the last thing that horse needs based on his run last time out.
Gordon IS NOT Palmers’ “stable jockey”. Media as usual ignore what the man actually said
He said that he would have her ridding out, BUT, the big named jocks (he specifically referred to Pat Smullen) would be getting his horses when available on the big days .
This is what Palmer actually said at the start of January 2017
” “I’m going to pay her to work for me.
Josephine will be riding out at Kremlin Cottage Stables every morning, in a similar way to how Pat Cosgrave does for William Haggas and Robert Havlin does for John Gosden.
Skilled people make good horses. She will get lots of opportunities, and lots of my owners want to use her.
She’s not going to be my stable jockey or what I would describe as number one, but she will be a major part of the team.
Now she’s ridden out her claim this will make things more official.
She’s fully aware that on big days someone like Pat Smullen could take over on a horse she has won on previously, but that might not always be the case.
This gives her a chance to take her career to the next level.”
Now, Pat , who helped Palmer to win an Irish Oaks and French Group 1 and a huge prize money 2 year old race in 2015, has not been to England much this year, and, with the way Weld is going (slower than usual at this point of the year, looks like some of his better horses might be going to Galway after all this year, unlike last year, he might be wanted in Ireland
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