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  • #1304996
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    Romanised. GL.

    #1304998
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    Surely unless you have some sort of angle or inside info these two year old contests are a sort of guessing game.

    You could really say the same for every horse race Judge, but this year’s Coventry does look like a particularly open contest.

    Having backed Declarationofpeace for this I’ve gone for his substitute Murillo 7/1. I thought his performance in Tipperary was even more impressive than the former’s in Dundalk, purely because of the quality of opposition. As somebody pointed out earlier in the thread, Wolfofbaggotstreet looks like a good marker, and the way Murillo floated past him suggests he will love this concrete ground. There are so many unexposed and progressive looking types in this that you could make a case for them all, but I’m going to nail my colours to this son of Scat Daddy , purely because his performance screamed future star to me.

    Good luck all. :good:

    #1304999
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    I forgot to mention that the withdrawal of Declarationofpeace spoke volumes to me about the regard in which Murillo appears to be held at Ballydoyle. You could argue instead that it is an indictment of Declarationofpeace rather than a display of confidence in Murillo, but you’d think Ballydoyle would rather go mob handed in the Coventry with a few mediocre runners, than split the two mediocre runners between the Coventry and the Windsor Castle.

    #1305016
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    Brother Bear is very weak, along with Denaar.

    11/2 and 10/1 respectively indicates little confidence.

    De Bruyne Horse and Murillo are the ones for money and Arawak is available at 15/2, hardly the certainty some websites are claiming that he is.

    Richard Hannon says he can’t split his two but the betting over the last week says that De Bruyne Horse is the one, and I have to say his form looks that bit more solid. He strikes me as a horse who may just be capable of more if he learns how to use himself to better effect and there is no doubt whatever that he has improved greatly from race to race so far.

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

    #1305047
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    Surely unless you have some sort of angle or inside info these two year old contests are a sort of guessing game.

    You could really say the same for every horse race Judge, but this year’s Coventry does look like a particularly open contest.

    Having backed Declarationofpeace for this I’ve gone for his substitute Murillo 7/1. I thought his performance in Tipperary was even more impressive than the former’s in Dundalk, purely because of the quality of opposition. As somebody pointed out earlier in the thread, Wolfofbaggotstreet looks like a good marker, and the way Murillo floated past him suggests he will love this concrete ground. There are so many unexposed and progressive looking types in this that you could make a case for them all, but I’m going to nail my colours to this son of Scat Daddy , purely because his performance screamed future star to me.

    Good luck all. :good:

    Well I disagree Voleur, if you have races with more established form like the gold cup, then it comes more down to judgement. How are you supposed to know which horse which has won one race is better than another horse which has won one race? So lets not pretend that backing in races like the coventry is anything but a lottery. :unsure:

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    Having done my video study the ones I like are Brother Bear and Headway at a bigger price. Brother Bear is obviously favourite, but I still think he’s good value at 11/2 given his very strong form and the impression that he won last time despite the ground not because of it.

    #1305055
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    Zaman for me. Looks great value but seems to be going under the radar. Liked the manner of his only win and won more easily than the winning margin suggested. The runner up won in nice style since. Could surprise at around 25/1.

    #1305062
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    Surely unless you have some sort of angle or inside info these two year old contests are a sort of guessing game.

    You could really say the same for every horse race Judge, but this year’s Coventry does look like a particularly open contest.

    Having backed Declarationofpeace for this I’ve gone for his substitute Murillo 7/1. I thought his performance in Tipperary was even more impressive than the former’s in Dundalk, purely because of the quality of opposition. As somebody pointed out earlier in the thread, Wolfofbaggotstreet looks like a good marker, and the way Murillo floated past him suggests he will love this concrete ground. There are so many unexposed and progressive looking types in this that you could make a case for them all, but I’m going to nail my colours to this son of Scat Daddy , purely because his performance screamed future star to me.

    Good luck all. :good:

    Well I disagree Voleur, if you have races with more established form like the gold cup, then it comes more down to judgement. How are you supposed to know which horse which has won one race is better than another horse which has won one race? So lets not pretend that backing in races like the coventry is anything but a lottery. :unsure:

    I was only jesting Judge :good:

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    The worry for me is that Brother Bear mowed down Sioux Nation on debut and that horse has looked a short runner and disappointing in general. He will need to be speedier today and Aidan’s Murillo is clearly no Sioux Nation who would curl up in front.

    I went out and backed De Bruyne horse for the 2000 Guineas this morning. There hasn’t been much this year that has inspired and the Coventry winner will be favourite for the Guineas tonight, all things being equal. De Bruyne horse looks an athletic colt still learning and he has finished his last two races strongly. He looks as good at this stage as Toormore did. There is just something about this horse and the way he travels that makes me think he will fill out into a good colt in time.

    The theory is that he’s 33/1 now and may sit 8/1 Fav tonight. He’s been backed, while stablemate Denaar is drifting like a barge at 12/1. Denaar was always too skinny when he sat at 6/1 earlier on. Hannon says there is little to choose but the market says otherwise.

    When you see Dali at the same odds for the Guineas there must be better value in De Bruyne Horse at double carpet. I’ve had a speculation anyway.

    2000 Guineas De Bruyne Horse 33/1

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

    #1305085
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    I’m a bit late having a look at this one, but I’m rowing in with a few who have
    already mentioned DE BRUYNE HORSE. I think he looks like he could
    be top class, I had to settle for 13/2 this morning, but I’ll be happy enough with
    that if he hoses in :good:

    #1305099
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    A track record for Ribchester in the opener. As an Epsom winner in the Woodcote, De Bruyne Horse brings the same credentials on the same quick ground that saw Buratino pip Air Force Blue for speed in the Coventry.

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

    #1305106
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    Who do you fancy here Steve?

    You haven’t made it clear ;-)

    #1305108
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    Going for Nookta sound in the last :good:

    #1305118
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    Don’t think the winner was mentioned on this thread once.

    Which just goes to prove my point about these races being random.

    #1305157
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    Going for Nookta sound in the last :good:

    Probably wasn’t going to be good enough anyway, but seemed an odd decision to load this one first?

    #1305162
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    A collection of 5 or 6 of us wannabe judges fail to mention the winner in a 20+ runner juvenile sprint and the race is akin to a lottery?

    Whaaa?

    #1305165
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    A collection of 5 or 6 of us wannabe judges fail to mention the winner in a 20+ runner juvenile sprint and the race is akin to a lottery?

    Whaaa?

    I thought Steve was a great judge, lost soldier?

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