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- May 17, 2018 at 10:53 #1354060
ROSTROPOVICH 33/1
Espom derby be key race because if Saxon Warrior gets beat i expect him to contest big 1m2 races and i got him at 14/1 to win Juddmonte thing is after did bet 30mins later AOB come out say train him for triple crown so not good that.
There no doubt form of Chester might not be the best by my bet here but more the way he done it left a mark on me he loved the good ground which he needs if soft ground got no chance but on fast ground he will run well in french derby.And after that i feel he a improving colt could come here after race in France.
May 17, 2018 at 15:49 #1354083That’s a good spot Darren, I’m going to follow you in. Like you I think good ground will be the making of this horse, and I’m expecting a big run from him in the Jockey Club.
June 27, 2018 at 14:15 #1358698If Poets Word goes for this I’d expect him to start favourite over the Derby 1-3 Masar and Roaring Lion; but is the Stoute horse going to Sandown?
Value Is EverythingJune 27, 2018 at 14:21 #1358699If he were mine, he’d be going, all depending on how well he is of course.
strike whilst the iron is hotGaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
June 27, 2018 at 16:16 #135871020 day break roughly seems fine enough aswell although it was a career best effort last week so could be tired.
Surely he PW him and Crystal Ocean up and CO goes KG so this is really the only logical race for him until the Juddmonte in August.
June 28, 2018 at 14:20 #1358773Rostropovich is going to run in the Irish Derby by the looks of things.
June 28, 2018 at 17:49 #1358795Bruce Raymond playing down the chances of Poets World running saying Stoute has Crystal Ocean and more likely the target to be the Juddmonte International for PW
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June 28, 2018 at 23:01 #1358825That comment on Crystal Ocean is talking abouut the King George, Nathan. Yes, Bruce did say the International is the probable/main target, but said it was up to Sir Michael if Poets Word runs between now and then. I take that as meaning the horse will go for the Eclipse only if they think he’s over the Ascot run. Which is fair enough.
Value Is EverythingJune 28, 2018 at 23:10 #1358826Thanks Ginge
That makes sense, I did think it strange dropping Crystal Ocean in tripGaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
July 2, 2018 at 09:17 #1359246I hope Gustav Klimt stays in as this step up in trip is overdue. Didn’t run during the second half of the season at 2 and I think he could be very progressive from here on.
July 2, 2018 at 19:01 #1359289Like you Mark I was hoping that Gustav would take part in this as I think he’s worth a crack at 10 furlongs but alas from what I gather it’s the Sussex next and I’d imagine he’ll stay at that distance for the remainder of the season now that Saxon Warrior looks set to contest all the upcoming Group 1’s at that distance.
This really is now just a 2 runner race.
Masar v Roaring Lion IV
July 2, 2018 at 20:22 #1359294Unless it cuts up even more Masar looks very short @ 11/8.
Laid some 2.24.Value Is EverythingJuly 3, 2018 at 12:20 #1359330I don’t necessarily think it can win but have backed HAWKBILL at 16/1 3 places cos this could seriously cut up and end up with about five or six runners and if they go back to front running with this it could surprise a few.
July 3, 2018 at 13:38 #1359335I agree 16/1 Hawkbill is value if he himself turns up. Got in a pace battle with Eminent last time out and taken on for the lead at Epsom too. Depends if Coolmore put in a pacemaker (Yucatan/Rostropovich?) but isn’t one to write off dictating pace on firmish ground. However, on Betfair Hawkbill is 33/1, with no money waiting to back him, so participation looks doubtful.
Value Is EverythingJuly 4, 2018 at 17:19 #1359384July 5, 2018 at 01:11 #1359413Desperation from Coolmore. Not that surprising though, nobody else good enough to have a reasonable chance. Coolmore don’t like it up’em you know. Happily is yet to return to her two year old best – let alone improve on it. Cliffs Of Moher proven not up to this level, Rostropovich may have improved a little, but he too is yet to reach this level. Of the other fillies – Clemmie and September under clouds and Rhododendron diappointed at Ascot too. Forever Together is one positive but she needs 12f+/soft ground, Magic Wand might eventually be a Group 1 filly at around this trip too. Saxon Warrior is their best for 1m to 1m4f who might (only might) be able to improve a bit more. Needs to.
Ballydoyle have probably realised he isn’t going to be a World beater, won’t beat a top form Cracksman or Enable, doubtful a Poets Word either. So if Saxon Warrior is to win an all age Group 1 it’s probably going to be one those three aren’t participating in. ie The Eclipse.
Value Is EverythingJuly 5, 2018 at 08:26 #1359418Ryan Moore is in the US on Saturday, so if he runs The Don will be back aboard you would think.

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